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Rupert 
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Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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 Topic: Fireblade - revisiting the hybrid projectPosted: 11 Jun 21 at 8:13pm |
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In relation to grf's post, I think PPPPPP sums it up. Think that's the right number of Ps!
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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PeterG
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Posted: 12 Jun 21 at 1:11pm |
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The boat wasn't that easy to right, slippery plate
The joys of a slippery plate. I remember some years ago a friend helping me with a slightly sticky new C/B gasket on my Contender. I was spraying silicone carefully on the gasket and he "helpfully" took the can and sprayed much more liberally around the board. Next time on the water I capsized (as was common) and tried to get back on the board. Horrendous - I couldn't get a grip on it all all, it was like ice skating. I only just managed to get back on board without needing rescue. My curses could be heard some way off, and were not printable.
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Peter
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iGRF
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Posted: 02 Jul 21 at 1:43pm |
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Well, last night I think I've finally managed to make it go as slow as it could be possible even with a chimp sailing it. My new mast doesn't cut it in light and sloppy and I've reverted from rear to centre sheeting so totally f**ked it up. Got overtaken to weather by a Laser in conditions I would normally fly in and totally humiliated on a wavey sloppy reach by an Aero 7, he's just sat there, I'm pumping my balls off and going backwards. So, back once more to the drawing board.
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rich96
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Posted: 02 Jul 21 at 3:16pm |
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I do take my hat off to you - forever taking a boat, modifying it, realising that the mods aren't right and apparently being forever frustrated
I'd have packed it in by now Do you think there is ever a chance that you will resign yourself to the reality that there are some great boats around that perform well, don't fall apart, encourage you to just practise, sail them better and better to win Perhaps its the tinkering that drives you ? We are all different I'm not old but value the hours I get on the water too much to be worrying about constant change and stuff just not working ? |
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Grumpycat
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Posted: 02 Jul 21 at 6:35pm |
Spot on , couldn’t agree more . I could never imagine going what grf is doing . Tbh I am fed up with the class I am in at the moment because of the fact it allows different mast, sails, foils etc. It’s not the class that’s the problem , it me. I just don’t want to spend that amount of time thinking about these things now, I used to really like it but times change . Plans are in place to more to a class with a lot less choice
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iGRF
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Posted: 02 Jul 21 at 6:56pm |
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I do it because the perfect racing sailing dinghy just doesn't exist, not one, they all have issues, they're either too heavy, are light enough but have crap rigs, have great rigs, but nose dive and have stupid little sticky out bits on the bottom, are to old fashioned, have stupid sails, it's just a world of total imperfection.
This boat wasn't bad, but I felt I could make it better, so far, not. But I should have done it, my rdm mast should be better, but the sail the boat came with, which tbh is a bit of a b**tardisation with a dodgy kink in the leech at batten no 3. Anyway for the moment I'm going back to tin and going to try for a sail cut to match the mast bend curve, if I can persuade local sail making person to wake up before 12noon and get out of bed and make me a f**king sail for this mast. The thing is, when your a complete racing sailing and tactical genius already, there's not much else to do to keep you amused but f**k about with kit. ;-) Edited by iGRF - 02 Jul 21 at 6:57pm |
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423zero
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Posted: 02 Jul 21 at 7:47pm |
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Carry on griff
 nothing gets done or altered unless someone goes the extra mile, Barnes Wallis is a perfect example of your attitude, he was ridiculed for his bouncing bomb.
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Robert
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Do Different
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Posted: 02 Jul 21 at 8:11pm |
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Absolutely. Tinkering is embedded in the history of dinghy evolution.
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Rupert
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Posted: 02 Jul 21 at 9:29pm |
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But giving the tinkering a chance is also important. Learning how to get the best out of a complex piece of equipment takes more than one sail.
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davidyacht
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Posted: 03 Jul 21 at 9:36am |
Some try to innovate and are early adopters, this can be very expensive, and in my experience presents the opportunity to live in the racing wilderness. Others keep their eyes open to trends, and get the right gear once it has been established to be fast. This tends to be less risky and in the long run less expensive. An observation is that, if we look beyond fitness, weight and skill set, tinkering with the fit out tends not to offer huge benefits, it is the fundamentals like foils, hull shape and sail shapes that make the big difference, and unless you are prepared to immerse yourself in the process, it is probably best left to the experts with deep pockets and serious sail making and boat building skills. Chapeau to GRF
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Happily living in the past
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