Clubs still allowing sailing

I've decided what I need is one of those invisibility cloaking devices beloved of the movies. I know I can get to the pond and sail safely without rescue cover and social-distanced but like everyone else am being a good boy and staying at home, pour encourager les autres. 

But also like everyone else, not sailing is frustrating the hell out of me. James Bond, Harry Potter and the Avengers all have these invisibility gadgets; who do I wave my credit card at?

It also makes me wonder how the cycling MAMILS get away with it. We can't sail partly because of safety cover, which could be provided by 2 family members in a RIB. A cyclist's safety cover is an NHS ambulance and 2 paramedics. How does this compute?

And here's that article about the virus just dying out naturally (Yes I subscribe to the telegraph, but I also read the Grauniad on occasion to get a balance)

Originally posted by Noah How's the Swedish approach panning out? Not much in the media I've seen.

Here's CNBC's take on it, if you can accept they're not 'Fake News purveyors'






Edited by iGRF - 27 Apr 20 at 2:11pm

Originally posted by NicolaJayne Originally posted by Mozzy I think the big worry was the virus overloading NHS and care services. That there would be a knock on impact for people with other health conditions getting access to medical help. And we would see many covid, and other health conditions die because of lack of access to health care.   This, thankfully, to a large extent we have avoided. Looking at Italy and Spain it was clear that this could become a problem.  But, my other half works in social care (occupational therapist) where all none critical services were cut to make staff available for secondment to covid wards and to stop spread in the community via staff. In the end, they've not really been needed. There's been plenty of extra capacity, mostly through premature discharge and cancelling of non-critical hospital visits.  What's alarming in the excess deaths data is how many of the extra deaths aren't recorded as covid. Possibly under reporting of covid, but surely by April it was forefront of coroners minds? I wounder how many of these extra deaths are those who would normally be getting 'non-critical care' in the community, or having minor operations and where more serious ills are picked up and treated early. How many are people not going to hospitals with strokes and heart attacks. The 'excess deaths' number tells us how many are dying as a result of both the virus, and the measures to combat the virus.  I also think about the many who have missed cancer screening and the ticking clock there.  Then there are people who have had non-critical, but still life changing procedures cancelled. And the longer restrictions go on, the more these 'non-critical' situation fester.  So, I fully agree with the lock down. But the longer it goes on, the more important it becomes to open up the non-critical, especially as it becomes clear we're not seeing a disastrous overloading of the NHS, which of course was the aim of lockdown.   We need to ask ourselves what measures we can take, what changes we can issue, for these non-critical, but still terribly important activities to take place. The lock-down has worked. We need to think about the collateral damage.  Sailing is a microcosm of the above. Just like the the patients discharged early, with no community care, who don't just disappear, the sailors who aren't on the water don't just disappear. There are some great minds working on solutions to the main problem, with vaccine and testing. But for the rest we should be asking how we can limit the collateral in other aspects of life by altering our behaviours but still realising benefits. speaking to my  contacts  ( and friends ) on the front lines the excess deaths  is in part people who fail to seek help when they should - so instead of seeking help of r that chest pain or the  really bad  gut ache  they don;t  and then a day or two wake up dead one morning  as they reinfarcted or their appendix burst  etc etc ....

Some have been mentioning figures. One things for sure, the numbers being mentioned media are hopelessly inaccurate........Nobody knows who's had it who's got it and who's died of it

Flu figures for who's had or got it are also wildly inaccurate over the years.

Even after the event the current government will bullsh*t about the figures. Excess winter deaths for 2017/18 were in the region of 50,000. The government wanted folk to believe this was because of ineffective flu vaccine. Health experts said it was because of cuts to the NHS reducing their ability to respond, austerity. The BMJ in this article are concerned with the "exaggerated" death figures being attributed to flu.

With the current issue it's in the governments interest to under exaggerate the numbers.

After the government have played politics with the issue we'll likely never know what the true facts and figures are.


https://www.bmj.com/content/361/bmj.k2795/rr-6