Social Media and Rule 69

   Initiating thread drift already but in the context of what might be a trend in Race Management/protest/jury behaviour?

Decision from Opi Worlds in which a sailor is doubly rule 2 disqualified (DNE) for knowingly infringing and not taking a penalty and also for telling the other sailor to ‘suck my balls’.

http://2019worlds.optiworld.org/en/default/toa/race-privateprotest2pdf/id_protest/1651 

I fail to see what the latter has to do with sportsmanship? Brass I think you posted something on this a while ago? Surely should have been dealt with as misconduct under Rule 69?

More generally has the lowering of the standard for 69 from gross misconduct to misconduct had an effect? Seems to me there are some indications that it has - eg some of our 49er sailors being denied racing for a post criticising but not abusing the RC/Jury.

Edited by sargesail - 07 Aug 19 at 4:33pm

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sargesail Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 14 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1459	Post Options Post Reply Quote sargesail Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Social Media and Rule 69 Posted: 07 Aug 19 at 4:29pm
	Initiating thread drift already but in the context of what might be a trend in Race Management/protest/jury behaviour? Decision from Opi Worlds in which a sailor is doubly rule 2 disqualified (DNE) for knowingly infringing and not taking a penalty and also for telling the other sailor to ‘suck my balls’. http://2019worlds.optiworld.org/en/default/toa/race-privateprotest2pdf/id_protest/1651 I fail to see what the latter has to do with sportsmanship? Brass I think you posted something on this a while ago? Surely should have been dealt with as misconduct under Rule 69? More generally has the lowering of the standard for 69 from gross misconduct to misconduct had an effect? Seems to me there are some indications that it has - eg some of our 49er sailors being denied racing for a post criticising but not abusing the RC/Jury. Edited by sargesail - 07 Aug 19 at 4:33pm

Brass Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 Mar 08 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brass Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Aug 19 at 2:41pm
	You might like to look at this old thread http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/155537-rule-69-disagreeing-with-a-protest-committee-versus-abusing-a-protes/ Key things about commenting on a protest committee's decision: Quote 8.7 With respect to the first issue (the dissent from the decision of the appeals Committee), the Panel is mindful of the need for decisions of officials in sport to be respected and not open to abuse. ... [but] It is always acceptable to have a difference of opinion with officials, and indeed it is inevitable that from time to time officials and competitors will disagree on decisions made. However, differences of opinion must be raised in a respectful manner and at an appropriate time and place. So any reasoned discussion of a protest or appeal committee's decision, even by a party, provided it avoids bad language or abuse, and provided it is not expressed in some inappropriate context, such as allinternationaljudgesareb**tards.com. will not breach rule 69.

L123456 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 30 Apr 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 500	Post Options Post Reply Quote L123456 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Aug 19 at 1:57pm
	Rule 69 defines misconduct as acts of bad manors and poor sportsmanship. How does this translate to social media? Would it be considered bad manners to question the judgement of the PRO or Jury during a championship?