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Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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My thoughts exactly, a couple of litres maybe but not 20......
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Possible perhaps given a large quantity of not-very-closed-cell-foam reserve buoyancy.
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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I have seen worse than 20 kg on a dory hull not much bigger than a 505. Lots of foam, lots of plywood. |
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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Still leaves a couple of questions though.
I know the minimum weight is 72kgs but what is standard weight? and are the
modern ones made to the same weight tolerance as thew 10yr old ones or are the
built closer to 72kgs now? Could we have reduced the class minimum weight ? - Very probably but this would have made the early polyester boats at a disadvantage and produced in effect a ‘two-class’ boat. Usefully at this weight the Blazes is not particularly fragile (though some owners do try to prove otherwise and drive them extremely hard in just about any conditions – the boats are simply superb fun in F4+) …. but if owners do have a problem the hull can still be easily enough sorted. Edited by Cirrus - 30 Aug 16 at 12:37pm |
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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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Ta for that reply, very interesting.
Talking of two class boats due to weight variations, how are RS doing with the 2000? I know the early Laser ones were lighter than the later Laser ones by a large margin (10kgs that I've witnessed and 20 kgs that I've heard about.) I'm wondering how the new ones compare. Edited by transient - 30 Aug 16 at 4:05pm |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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On the subject of lightweight single handers has anybody sailed a Europe? There's one for sale here, I still have a soft spot for my old OK but I don't think I fancy sailing one in a breeze these days (and I'm not sure I could get under the boom anymore). The Europe looks as if it might suit me (low boom lowing but it doesn't look as low as an OK), light at 45 kgs, 7m sail, supposed to be a decent sea boat and it looks reasonably comfortable (for a hiker) to sail. I'm at the top of the weight range at 75kg (which sounds about right) and the PY might give me a chance against them pesky kids in the Radials.....
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I liked Europes when I had a ride in a couple decades ago. I wouldn't fit in one now, but I'm currently using a Vintage Moth which is one generation newer (much the same beam, less rocker, more modern rig and thus headroom) and enjoying pottering about in it.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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I think I may not be bendy enough for a Europe so I'm reconsidering the Blaze as a possible but would like to buy an epoxy hull. Cirrus? Do you know what sail number the manufacture changed to epoxy?
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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The switch to epoxy happened a few years back and the first one was number '747'. Hartleys have now taken on the Blaze and to kick things off made an attractive introductory offer - this produced 20 paid up deposits, with more promised and in the pipeline, many coming from existing owners looking to renew their boats.
This is incredibly good news if you are currently looking for a decent used epoxy boat. The market for good (epoxy) Blazes has always been very tight (aka premium priced) but with a number of the deposits being coming from owners of epoxy boats you should have some real choice - and a bit of negotiating power comes with that choice ! The new Hartley ones will come on stream before too long and now we are approaching the end of the season some owners will be very keen to sell their current boats in advance of taking delivery. Many go by word of mouth but you could try a 'wanted' ad on the class association website - and if you go this route you should be able to reach a good deal.. ![]() Edited by Cirrus - 09 Sep 16 at 10:10am |
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ifoxwell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 06 Location: Hoo Online Status: Offline Posts: 669 |
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I sail a Blaze at the same weight as and would say that the mk3's are better than the mk2's but not by very much, far more important is the carbon mast which makes a big difference at our weight. I recently went back to a mk2 715, but upgraded it with a second hand carbon mast from Mike and its a great boat. I weighed it last winter during a refit and it is pretty much down to weight (73.5kg) and goes just as quick as 807, which itself was a great boat. Of course carbon masts tend to only be available on the second hand market with mk3's so I may not have added that much to your decision process.
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