Advertising via sail numbers? 55

Originally posted by SoggyBadger Originally posted by fudheid If it is immaterial then why bother? It is not immaterial to the patent holder. ask north /doyle/ sobstad who spent alot of time and money deciding who could do what..... That has to be the most horrendous mis-comprehension of a simple English sentence I've ever come across. You should be ashamed of yourself. Originally posted by fudheid tape drive is a trademarked membrane (just like everything in sails these days) owned by uksailmakers (butch halsey). Any sailmaker can buy it if they have an account with a franchise like north/doyle/quantum/ullman/velman/China Sails/UKsails - i'm not sure if Hydes have a 'string' sail, but as an independant sailmaker you cannot buy these products unless you have done a deal with the larger loft. You're very good at contradicting yourself. Also are you aware that the patents on in.all this technology has long since expired? Originally posted by fudheid The only membrane sails an independant sailmaker can buy is DIAX2LP or D4, one is Bainbridge and the other is Dimension polyant - both are cloth suppliers and not sailmakers.  I'm well aware of both Bainbridge and DP and their products having dealt with them both when I was in the trade.

Fair play your syntax is better than mine, I feel ashamed your sentence construction is better than mine. You must teach English?
The patents are still very much in the way that is why they all differ.These large outfits are pretty aggressive at protecting they're tech and continue to be litigious. These companies spent millions buying and developing they're technology. They do not tend to offer it to small (and yes speed sails are small in these terms) lofts unless they are a franchise.
The reason that the Chinese ones are easier to spot is because of infringements on patents. So they had to use straight fibres as the load taking yarns. As you say it is not important; really? Isn't the point that the load bearing yarns follow the loads in the Sail and rig?
If a Sail loft is independent should it be selling north/ullmans/uksailmakers/hydes/doyles/chinasails? In my opinion no, as that is a franchise and not an independent......


Edited by fudheid - 07 Feb 13 at 9:39pm

Originally posted by pondmonkey Who's going to boot it? No protest... vis a vis, no moral obligation to retire either IMHO.

Originally posted by chrisg Are the speed fireball sails "aero web?" http://fireballsailing.org.uk/news/news_article.php?article_id=580

Case proven then.

Originally posted by chrisg Have the forum jury forgotten RS and the 800's? guess those sailors weren't prepared to do the honourable thing from the Bloody Mary.

Just underlines that some on here are total hypocrites.

Who's going to boot it? No protest... vis a vis, no moral obligation to retire either IMHO.

Are the speed fireball sails "aero web?"

Edited by chrisg - 07 Feb 13 at 8:18pm