12ft skiff

Why/how do 12ft skiffs carry so much more sail than cherubs? Are they just much wider?

The 12's carry s**t loads of sail because their area is unrestricted. The Cherubs carry 15.5m2 beacuse this is what the class rules allow.

Originally posted by timnoyce thats a nice example of a pitchpole. next time i expect to see it a bit straighter with the tip of the mast hitting the water first in a perfect line

First off we don't call it a "pitchpole" we call it "going down the mine" or just "mining". This wins you and you crew a beer, which must be skulled, this boat got fourth in the series and nearly won the "Underall Trophy", Yes there is a BETTER photo which is of the Australian boat that won the Interdomions.

Cherubs are WIDER than 12's at least the Ozzie one are, lines for the Woof Hull, current design, are on our web site. I have seen posted on the pic of the week, lines for a UK Cherub.

As for sail area, we take 3-4 distinct rigs to a race with some people having reef points and/or other jibs to create the perfect rig for the race or regatta. If you don't like you sails you may change them overnight and race with them without any kind of penalty. We also "rig for the holes", that is pick a rig to get you "powered up" in all conditions expected in that race. We can be powered up in 5 knots & up to about 25-30 knots, after that you are "in the lap of the Gods".

 

For the UK Cherub guys, check out the NZ R Class http://www.rclass.org/ These are kind of a restricted twelve. The rig size listed is about 4th rig, in fact you will see NZ 12's racing as R Classes & those boats use their R Class rigs as a 4th (the smallest)

Did you know we have a bloke who admits to being 70( however I think is much OLDER ) steering a twelve. Maybe its because they are additive.

 

skiffe. just wondered what the maximum beam of the R-Class is? I found this information on the website but it doesn't seem to say a maximum width including the wings? or have i missed something?

• 3.0 Beam
  • 3.1 The extreme beam measured to the outside of the hull must not be less than 1.4 metres measured between perpendiculars to the waterline.
  • 3.2 The full width of the forward section of the boat, measured across the boat, 300mm back from the stem must not exceed 700mm.

Also at 3.9 metres surely they have an advantage upwind over the 12's running as R-classes as they are about 25cm longer? or doesn't it make a difference?