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    Posted: 30 Jun 10 at 1:39pm
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Originally posted by moonlight

In the very light wind, goosewinging was difficult and I felt a fly away whisker pole is needed to stabilise the headsail. I think in stronger winds the boat will gain stabilty from its forward speed and I look forward to trying her in brisker winds.

From my brief sail, I got the impression that it might be quicker to tack downwind in the light stuff anyway. Under those circs, sitting on the inside edge of the side-deck worked just fine.

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I sailed this boat at Hamble last weekend and it was very interesting. The conditions were light, about 6 knots of wind with fairly flat water occasionally stirred up by passing ribs and power boats.

The K1 is superb up wind, it points high and heels gradually until the keel weight holds it upright. It does respond to hiking and is also very comfortable to do that with the cockpit being deeper than it perhaps looks on photographs. It certainly seems to slice through the water and feels best with your weight well forward and the stem just kissing the water.

Reaching felt good although there was too little wind to get a real feel for its potential.

On a run however the boat felt completely different, particularly in light winds. The very round bilges mean that there is almost no form stabilty and so the K1 doesn't really know where it should be between about 40 degrees either side of upright. This means that in light conditions you have to sit in the centre of the boat to achieve the right balance. For me that was sitting on the floor with my feet lying over the side decks and my back against the other side deck.

In the very light wind, goosewinging was difficult and I felt a fly away whisker pole is needed to stabilise the headsail. I think in stronger winds the boat will gain stabilty from its forward speed and I look forward to trying her in brisker winds.

All in all I enjoyed the experience and I think that the K1 offers a superb platform for people like me who find hard hiking and the fitness required to get the best out of single handed dinghies a distant meomory. And it would be good to have a few of these out at hamble on Wednesday evenings.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ifoxwell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 10 at 2:36pm
I suspect the truth will be some where in between.

The hull has been designed such that it works well heeled
over and thus you don't get punished for sailing healed in
the same way that most dingies would...

However you cant beat the fact that both the sails and
foils will be more efficient with the boat up right and
thus in an even battle he who hikes hardest will gain an
advantage.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 10 at 2:36pm

It certainly won't be as bad as a Laser - the K1 hull is designed to sail well even when heeled, and the keel will even things out to some extent, but I'm sure that a hiked boat will beat a non-hiked above a given wind strength.

For a notional two-man + trap boat, I'd favour a lighter keel with just enough weight to self-right and a hull optimised for sailing upright (makes sense with the trapeze).

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It may be that this boat is like the laser and needs to be hiked hard. Personally I am hoping its not and perhaps I am over optimistic.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 10 at 11:04pm

I don't think anyone was proposing that the K1 should have a trapeze but rather a bigger two-man version.

But with the K1 you'll be competing with people who are hiking, so if you don't in order to save your knees, you'll be a disadvantage. Personally, I liked the original concept of banning hiking on the K1.

With a crew on the wire of a two-man boat, the imperative for the helm to hike wouldn't be nearly as great.

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You know when you get into your 60's, hiking hard and trapezing challenge knees that have been damaged through many years of both sailing and playing squash. I accept that trapezing is generally easier than hiking except when you need to be half in and half out or curled up in a ball hooked on couching on the side deck.

Ageing knees don't allow that and hence why we need some boats like this for those who do not want to sail an X Boat or Squibb. Personally I'd rather still be sailing than not and so it is choosing the right sort of boat to meet one's needs and for me the K1 might just fit the bill. I do think however it would be better with a fly away jibstick like N12 or Albacore.



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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Trapezing a keelboat is such an obvious possibility I'm amazed it's not common.

Why hike your knees off when you have such a nice stable platform to trapeze that even your granny could do it?

I took out a 50 yo mate in my K6 in a 20-25 knots breeze. He had hardly ever sailed before and we had a blast with him on the trapeze. He loved it (but we didn't hoist the gennaker though). Doing the same thing with as an example a 505 would not work at all.

As you stated there are a lot of benefits with using trapezes on a sports boat and hardly any disadvantages at all.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Merlinboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 10 at 7:26pm
Well the K1 that was delivered to a member at Tewkesbury seems to be going well.  Its a fantastic looking boat!
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