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dontdocalm! ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 74 |
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Oh it has - its marketed by a high-profile company and has 'brand identity'! Doesn't means its a better boat though. EDIT:- I must learn to type quicker - 2 replies added while I was doing it!!! Edited by dontdocalm! |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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The RS 500 is not a bad boat, but it's low-tech and a bit heavy, and uses sail area to try to compensate; the main reason it sells more than the V3k is the RS badge. Anybody considering a 500 should try a V3k first; it would be hard to buy a 500 after that unless you just wanted to do the RS circuit. That's not just my opinion, most people who have tried a V3k have bought one. As to not taking the cover off till F4+, the new sails have made 3k's potential winners in lighter winds too now, albeit while making them a bit more of a challenge in a blow. Of course, if you sail a Laser 3000, you can revert to the old sails when it honks! Comfort has been much improved by the rigging mods that are now allowed and are standard on the V: gnav, aft bridle and off the boom sheeting make the cockpit pretty spacious, and it's certainly easier to trapeze than the wider 500 - I don't think anybody who had sailed both could seriously dispute that. |
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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How many of those went to sailing schools/centres though? RS has better marketing when it comes to these things. |
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mike10626 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 04 Jul 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 72 |
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My vote would be for the RS 500 as well. 230 RS 500's built in the time that the new v3000 has got to something like 15 ! It must have something going for it. If you want the close to the water action of that hull you would do better to resurrect an old Laser 2 - it would be far cheaper and it goes straight down wind. |
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dontdocalm! ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 74 |
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M. Liddell quote:-"....Just don't bother even looking at taking the cover off until a decent F4+..." The interesting bit is that both V3000s and Laser 3000s are combined in a single Class, the 3000 Class, competing either on an equal basis in Class open events or with a single RYA handicap (from 2008 TN1032 , but previously 1030) Tricky!! Edited by dontdocalm! |
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The Laser II had that reputation also but as it turns out unjustly. Laser IIs will win club races in lighter stuff if sailed right. I suspect the V3000 is similar. The bit about them being good in a real blow is also true but unfortunately every other club boat stays on the beach so you will be on your own. |
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m_liddell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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The 3k always surprises me when I sail it, it probably isn't that fast but because of the huge breakout into planing it feels faster than it is. It feels a lot nicer on teh plane than the buzz. Just don't bother even looking at taking the cover off until a decent F4+... Still if I was in the market for a boat like this it would probably be an RS500 not a boat with a hull designed in the 70s. The 3k is also particularly uncomfortable to sail. |
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Ross ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1163 |
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I relly want a go in a V3K.
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Andrewst ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Aug 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 129 |
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Skiffybob ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 842 |
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Sorry, yes. Misread your post. More pooh than pants (i.e. heavy, soggy, but won't go down no matter how hard you try to sink it) |
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