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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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Cheaper, maybe. Faster, not yet.
As for a ladies boat. It reeally should be another Cat. How about the F16 or Spitfire ? |
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Jon Emmett ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988 |
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I am sure if you did this 95% of the top boats would be Women helming and Men Crewing. Not saying this is a bad thing but in terms of optimisation (which is what Olympic sailing is all about) this would be the most likely winning combination... |
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getafix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143 |
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Like the idea of changing the Tornado to an open (2
person) cat which could also be sailed singlehanded by men and
women using the same platform - ie. hulls & tramp - similar to
Spitfire/Shadow concept. You could also drop the Yngling in
favour of the 29erXX and the Star and Finn in favour of a more modern
keelboat for either fleet racing or match racing... so a line up like:
Laser - mens Laser Radial - womens 49er - dble mens 29erXX - dble womens Double handed cat - open Single handed cat - mens & womens Keelboat - fleet open Keelboat - match racing, open Keep the 470? I know it's popular but it's another boat which has probably suffered more than prospered because of Olypmic status, why not have an extra keelboat element (so Match Racing and fleet racing) - both with conventional kites as a good test of boat handling skills and to off-set all that A-sail stuff! I don't like the idea of continuing with the Tornado - it's hardly fair to call it a 'production' boat, it's fantastically expensive and can't be trailed (legally) very easily - it is incredibly fast though... |
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tickel ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 408 |
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The trouble is that conventional kite boats probably have a limited life. Like it or not eventualy they will probably decline over the comming years unless ,of course, someone designs a new one. So, how about a 59er or a B14 with a propper spinaker or a totaly new skiff, catch that downhill!!!
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I think this has been covered before - on nationals turnouts, the symmetrical spinnakered boats are more popular than they have been in many years, and abroard they are streets ahead of the skiff like boats in terms of numbers sailed. |
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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yer but the skiff boats are the best in terms of tv coverage! who wants to watch a 470 going down wind?? (noone) who wants to watch a skiff fly downwind?? everyone!!
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tickel ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 408 |
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Well Rupert, that may be true for now but in time everything develops. It's not the type of kite but what it's attached to that counts. Modern boats are image and image is popularity in the modern world. The Olympics are the premier advertising spot for our sport. My own children, both successful sailors, and one a girl, always had trouble making their friends understand that they didn't just float around on old wooden things looking at the view
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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So, Maybe we need a third form of Spinnaker - one with the wow factor of the asym and the versatility of the conventional one. Over to all you budding sail designers...
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Hmm, not much difference between "who wants to watch a pole kite boat - no-one" and "who wants to watch a asymettric boat - almost no-one" |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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You mean like this kind of thing? ![]() Its more a matter of having a sensible length polethan anything else... |
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