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    Posted: 19 Apr 22 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by Grumpycat

To put this into prospective. The Supernova changed to a epoxy build a few year ago and the minimum weight dropped from about 62kg to 50kg. Did it’s handicap get harder ? No, it got slightly easier because all that happened was it attracted a lot of slow sailors to the class .
Also I  don’t remember any of the normal suspects on here calling the Supernova a bandit when this happened at the time .  Smile

I may not be a "usual suspect" but i'm sure ive commented that the newer Supernovas are a fairly massive bandit as soon as the course in any way favours a singlehander. IE relative to similar classes they seem to have a very favourable handicap.
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Originally posted by Grumpycat




I think you will find it’s only the top section that’s a carbon/ glass composite with the full rig/ILCA 7. The lower section and the boom is still aliminium . Not sure about the radial/ILCA 6 though. Think they have or are planning to a carbon/glass bottom section . 
Think the top section has been class legal for a couple of years. 
Were you sailing at Draycote today ? , the pursuit race looked like fun . My wife and I thought the 505 was going to win today .  Smile





Yes, first sail in 2 years. Got badly caught out on the first long beat going right hoping for a header off the far shore…. Whilst the wind unceasingly decided to swing south and lift the boats going left. The stuff one forgets.

The 505 was sailed very well and deserved their finish position. That boat can hang out a surprisingly large amount of sail area and fly along the very many downwind legs.

The top results included a wide variety of boats incl a Streaker, 505, Laser, supernova and a Fifteen. Thus proving, handicap racing works a treat!
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Originally posted by Paramedic

Originally posted by Grumpycat

To put this into prospective. The Supernova changed to a epoxy build a few year ago and the minimum weight dropped from about 62kg to 50kg. Did it’s handicap get harder ? No, it got slightly easier because all that happened was it attracted a lot of slow sailors to the class .
Also I  don’t remember any of the normal suspects on here calling the Supernova a bandit when this happened at the time .  Smile

I may not be a "usual suspect" but i'm sure ive commented that the newer Supernovas are a fairly massive bandit as soon as the course in any way favours a singlehander. IE relative to similar classes they seem to have a very favourable handicap.

You are definitely not a ‘ usual suspect ‘ .  Tongue Unlike myself  who is definitely thought of as one, by some members of this forum  LOL
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Originally posted by boatshed

Originally posted by Grumpycat




I think you will find it’s only the top section that’s a carbon/ glass composite with the full rig/ILCA 7. The lower section and the boom is still aliminium . Not sure about the radial/ILCA 6 though. Think they have or are planning to a carbon/glass bottom section . 
Think the top section has been class legal for a couple of years. 
Were you sailing at Draycote today ? , the pursuit race looked like fun . My wife and I thought the 505 was going to win today .  Smile





Yes, first sail in 2 years. Got badly caught out on the first long beat going right hoping for a header off the far shore…. Whilst the wind unceasingly decided to swing south and lift the boats going left. The stuff one forgets.

The 505 was sailed very well and deserved their finish position. That boat can hang out a surprisingly large amount of sail area and fly along the very many downwind legs.

The top results included a wide variety of boats incl a Streaker, 505, Laser, supernova and a Fifteen. Thus proving, handicap racing works a treat!

That were you sailing ? We watched all the starts from the solos onwards. It was a lovely day for a sail, we were very jealous even though we were still recovering from sailing on Sunday  LOL.
As a side issue all power to the child in the optimist, they stuck it out for the whole race. They must have been out there for about 2 hours . 
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Originally posted by Grumpycat


Originally posted by boatshed

Originally posted by Grumpycat




I think you will find it’s only the top section that’s a carbon/ glass composite with the full rig/ILCA 7. The lower section and the boom is still aliminium . Not sure about the radial/ILCA 6 though. Think they have or are planning to a carbon/glass bottom section . 
Think the top section has been class legal for a couple of years. 
Were you sailing at Draycote today ? , the pursuit race looked like fun . My wife and I thought the 505 was going to win today .  Smile





Yes, first sail in 2 years. Got badly caught out on the first long beat going right hoping for a header off the far shore…. Whilst the wind unceasingly decided to swing south and lift the boats going left. The stuff one forgets.

The 505 was sailed very well and deserved their finish position. That boat can hang out a surprisingly large amount of sail area and fly along the very many downwind legs.

The top results included a wide variety of boats incl a Streaker, 505, Laser, supernova and a Fifteen. Thus proving, handicap racing works a treat!

That were you sailing ? We watched all the starts from the solos onwards. It was a lovely day for a sail, we were very jealous even though we were still recovering from sailing on Sunday  LOL.
As a side issue all power to the child in the optimist, they stuck it out for the whole race. They must have been out there for about 2 hours . 


Solo. Think I ended up 13th. I was buried after the first beat and a leg or more behind the other So Slows. Got a bit of a wiggle on and made up some ground. Never sailed a Solo before,so, that was a decent first outing. The Opi helm had perseverance! I thought the Fevas would have done better but I guess the down wind legs were too broad. The Laser that won had a cracking first beat and got away but the top places were pretty close
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Good result , top Solo. There was a lot of good sailing going on out there yesterday. Who was sailing the winning ILCA? He is not mentioned in the results, he seemed a league above the other ILCA and Aero sailors . 

Edited by Grumpycat - 19 Apr 22 at 5:28pm
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Originally posted by Grumpycat

Good result . There was a lot good sailing going on out there yesterday. Who was sailing the winning ILCA? He is not mentioned in the results, he seemed a league above the other ILCA and Aero sailors . 


Young lad. His Dad was on the committee boat. Every little helps! He sailed very well but another 10 minutes and the Flying Fifteen would have had him.
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whats that got to do with the subject..............boring
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you and your mates appear to be over opinionated on any subject.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Demelza, Just on Lasers or anything?

You and your mates seem to be over opionated on most subjects.
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