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    Posted: 13 Jan 19 at 5:18pm
We will die exactly because the grass roots sailors will stop turning up and helping run clubs, clubs will become businesses and costs will skyrocket, success will be measured in wins and profits not participation.

I stopped my occasional forays onto the national Raceboard circuit when the UKBSA merged with the BFA, farmed out the running to a corporate enterprise, doubled the entry fees overnight and then left the RB sailors standing on the shore in perfectly decent conditions 'cos the Formula Windsurfing hotshots had a minimum wind speed..........

Hopefully there will be pockets of resistance in my local clubs long enough for me to reach an age where it all becomes of academic interest.....


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There are way, way too many clubs trying to support way, way, too few sailors. Something has to give. Rationalisation WILL happen. It NEEDS to happen. Corinthian clubs will always exist, but in todays world, it will be the minority. Tiz sad, but tiz the way of the NEW world. 

My own area of sailing area has WAY TOO MANY clubs competing for the same audience. It cant go on. The rose tinted specs of yester-year need to come off.

Hence the need for a Strategist with business experience


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@giraffe probably has the nub of it, we need to attract more non-sailors into the sport, who knows if a corporate approach can do that without alienating existing sailors. I do agree about too many clubs chasing too few racers but, given that probably only 10% of sailors race regularly maybe that is actually not the issue........

With that and the Brexit fiasco it's enough to drive a man to drink........ Now where's that corkscrew......
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My club is tiny only 35 active members, we run racing Saturday and Thursday, we are a RYA training centre, a lot of members are also members of other clubs, we are not going to close our successful small well run well funded club.
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Originally posted by 423zero

My club is tiny only 35 active members, we run racing Saturday and Thursday, we are a RYA training centre, a lot of members are also members of other clubs, we are not going to close our successful small well run well funded club.

Yeah. sorry, worded that badly, I wouldn't advocate any club that has enough members to continue to close or merge, I love my small holiday club, it has much to commend it. But it's inevitable, if the sport declines, that some clubs will be unable to maintain critical mass and will fall by the lakeside......
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Originally posted by ttc546

My own area of sailing area has WAY TOO MANY clubs competing for the same audience. It cant go on. The rose tinted specs of yester-year need to come off.

Do the potential sailors find the clubs or do the clubs generate the sailors?

If the former, then you are correct, but it could be that lots of little clubs are at the base of a pyramid that find and develop new participants.
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Often there are several clubs in an area because each one has limited space. It often turns out that each club attracts a different set of people, too. So, lose a club, you may often lose many of the people from that club entirely.

To me, it is just a rerun of the "too many classes" nonsense spouted by people who don't like individuality, and don't really "get" that a particular niche boat is why someone was attracted to sailing in the first place.
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Originally posted by ttc546

There are way, way too many clubs trying to support way, way, too few sailors. Something has to give. Rationalisation WILL happen. It NEEDS to happen. Corinthian clubs will always exist, but in todays world, it will be the minority. Tiz sad, but tiz the way of the NEW world. 

My own area of sailing area has WAY TOO MANY clubs competing for the same audience. It cant go on. The rose tinted specs of yester-year need to come off.

Hence the need for a Strategist with business experience

Where's the evidence that Corinthian clubs will be in the minority?
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Meanwhile, here in rural Oxfordshire, our membership is full, and the waiting list has a waiting list...Happy days.
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