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Mikey 14778 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 298 |
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Unless I've lost my understanding of fundamental physics, it's almost identical to a normal rope
kicker but with a bit of mechanical advantage from the vertical bit and a hell of a lot of stress induced around the joint on the boom. I suspect it also loads up the gooseneck big-time, although I haven't done the maths to prove it. Not very good IMHO. [Edit] I'm talking about the thing Peaky posted, not the other curvy stuff. Big problem with the curvy stuff is that you'd have to get your mechanical advantage elsewhere - on a rope kicker you can get it with a cascade between boom and mast. Edited by Mikey 14778 |
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Norbert ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 351 |
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The way i imagined it was to introduce something that
would create a gap in a normal rope kicker, get a boomerang and tie a rope to each end and pull tight, presuming the boomerang to be robust enough it should pull just as tight but create an air gap that the crew's head, sheet what ever could be pulled through without getting caught by the rope. Not used as a lever mechanism attached to the mast. |
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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I think I've got you. So it's basically a long, rigid strop from the boom to the purchase at the mast with a dod of elastic attached to the gooseneck to hold it the right way round.
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Norbert ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 351 |
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Exactomento! |
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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We use boomerang kickers on a certain 21ft keelboat. The idea is to clear the coackpit coaming, but as a side effect it does give the crew more room. They are made out of 6mm ali plate and have to be about 100mm wide at the corner to be strong enough. See also 'Tinley Kicker' on X-boats. |
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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Hi
I am following this thread with interest. We already get laser cut s/s custom parts made already. So if any of you bright mechanical design engineers out there want to do the calcs and design us a good boomer prototype we'll get a couple made and test them as soon as available. We have a few related ideas to throw into the mix as well... maybe contact me direct - see www.cirrusrace.com for contact info Mike L. (aka Cirrus) |
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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Mike, It's the 21st century. Think about about a carbon boomerang. Cheers. |
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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... and this is a prototype design we are talking about .. you don't go to carbon unless the design is ergonomically right first unless you have money to burn. The material choice comes later.
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Would you get enough travel in the blocks with this system? If it was more of a boomerang that pivoted on the boom near the gooseneck it would act like a lever and not need so many pulleys? |
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Got any pics of the X boats setup? Surely a boomerang kicker should be called a boomervang?! Edited by Peaky |
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