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    Posted: 02 Mar 10 at 12:47pm

Hi all,

Big rig aim was to get up to Phantom power overall, but our greater gunwhale width means you are hiking out a bit later for same weight helm. Small rig unfolded from that - ended up 1.8m smaller which equated to 15kgs lighter helm powered up at similar moment. We seem to have similar pace upwind in the light to a Phantom, but a well sailed 300 should be slightly quicker.

2 rig size rationale was based on evolving 2 fleets. I do not believe we should insist that certain weights sail one or other - but that will evolve to a great degree: My best guess is that 8.4m rig might be sailed by 65-95kg sailors depending on venue, confidence and skill, and 10.2m 80kg to 110kg, again depending on the variables. The big overlap is the reason why the Class rules should not restrict useage.

So how would it work in practice? club level - 2 handicaps recommended, take your choice  - opens - choose your rig prior to the event and stick with it: Likewise for a circuit series. From the first event I would guess we would all start together, and perhaps have both an overall and split results: As soon as the fleets are big enough, definitely 2 seperate starts, like Laser / Radial.

The uptake on RS100 internationaly is on a roll - so I would hope that all international events would go straight to 2 starts:

Event format is another interesting topic: standard RS events are 3 races a day for opens - 2 or 3 for big championships. I think 9er and MPS do 4 a day: We have all the options - also hearing Luca's thoughts, we could through in a long race or 2 at big events for double or +50% points for example?

Finally Class rules are being drafted at moment - in the ISAF format - and as soon as done we will put it out for owners views. They could be voted in officially towards the end of the year, when no doubt we will all know more.

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Hi James, Nick

yes, I agree it does all sound pretty sensible - good news. 

For me a key point was that at club level there would be 2 handicaps.  It just seems to make sense that the two different size rigs will perform differently.  I just didn't want to get 'lumbered' with a PY suited to the big rig if I was sailing a small rig.

Nick, roughly how many 100s will there be in the UK by the end of this year?

 

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We have the capacity to deliver 200 boats by the end of October - we have sold to date 152 - with 6 for AUS and 2 more for Denmark hopefully about to be added, so round it to 160ish, of which roughly 100 are sold to UK. That leaves 40 or so to sell, of which Charlie thinks the UK is good for another 20 or so this year: Mind you export could easily swallow up more than another 20...?

So best guess is by end of 2010, there should be 120ish in the UK and 80ish in rest of World: Target would be to apply for International status by July 2011.

Hope that gives a bit of a picture: Needless to say we are chuffed to bits with this early commitment and sales. But almost more exciting still, and what is so different about this boat is internationally - there is so much enthusiasm, and such potential.

Nick.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote radixon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 10 at 4:26pm
Originally posted by Nick Peters

So best guess is by end of 2010, there should be 120ish in the UK and 80ish in rest of World: Target would be to apply for International status by July 2011.



Holy S.......

120 boats in the UK in the first year, does that beat any other RS boat sales?

I am overjoyed for you lot, its a great thing for you guys especially in a year that others are struggling in. I do hope that the RS100 will continue to develope similar to the other RS classes especially the 200, 400 and 800.

Well done to RS and keep up the good work. Now can you offer us lot a decent 2010 sailing season, F3 every day with plenty of sun and a temperature above 15 C? If you can, I'll nab a 100 off you!
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On the day I put my money down, which was a week or so ago, 5 other people had already done so that day! That has to be a good day for sales! Makes you feel pretty confident about putting money down when that happens...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ASok Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 10 at 5:39pm
Congrats to all concerned. I really like the boat, but can't be talked out of
cats at the minute

The team are showing some serious business skills here. Revealing a brand
new class and getting some huge sales in the largest global recession the
world has seen - fair play
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Its really only just dawned on me how clever bit of marketing this (two sails)
is by RS - basically two-boats-in-one needing only the alternative sail to
give the boat both a large wind range and a much larger potential market,
light to heavy. This should be great for encouraging big fleets at club level
and also ensuring excellent future secondhand values - another winning
point !

Out of interest any take up with female sailors to date ? See there are some
girls on the RS100 Facebook site.
Not now Kato (you fewl) !

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Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)
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Guys, only issue with the 2 PY numbers at club level, is that your average club OOD isnt going to have a clue what rig you have got, so if you dont own up to it when you sign on, how are they supposed to know. This will then cause club sailing secs. a real headache when you all phone them up to get the latest results re-computed with your other handicap.

Tread carefully!
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Originally posted by craiggo

Guys, only issue with the 2 PY numbers
at club level, is that your average club OOD isnt going
to have a clue what rig you have got, so if you dont own
up to it when you sign on, how are they supposed to know.
This will then cause club sailing secs. a real headache
when you all phone them up to get the latest results re-
computed with your other handicap.

Tread carefully!


Besides the OD having to identify which rig is which, how
would it work in a club race series? Would it be one boat
with two PY's and a single set of points or two different
boats with the points split between them?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Merlinboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 6:46am

This is of kind of my pont.  Why does it need to have 2 PY's??  The boat has two sail sizes and both are still called the RS100, therefore its one boat.   The Solo's do a smaller cut down sail, but it sails off the same PY as the full version.  Lasers have different rigs, but they are different classes of boat and as such each rig has a different PY. 

Therefore i think it should be one PY, i don't see thre being much speed difference between the two rigs, in all but the lightest conditions.

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