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    Posted: 03 Apr 09 at 9:00am
I dont want to wade in here and totally kill this thing dead in the water,
but didn't anyone notice how close to the water that low boom comes
during a gybe, all very well on lakes and flat water but certain inverted
dampness on our chop if it happens at the wrong moment as it certainly
will at least once round the course.

Why make the boom so low what is the point?

All that end plate effect is so eighties and debunked now with more
efficient Hi aspect rigs.

And why so long a chord in the sail? It just looks so wrong and extremely
dated.
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Originally posted by Peaky

What is the point of the traveller?  What does it do that can't be done by the kicker?  And if it does do something extra (or better) is it really worth the cost, hassle and sore shins?

I'm not a fan of unstayed rigs but if it has to be unstayed then a traveler is to my mind essential on a dinghy designed for serious racing. Its the only way I feel that you can set the sail correctly on all points of sailing and retain full control... the kicker only goes so far when you trying to retain the correct bend in the mast.

But I'm sure others would disagree

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Post Options Post Options   Quote blaze720 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 09 at 11:47am

Mike are you going to look at the kite as a bolt on option IE same as the Halo?

Yes - It does work and can be very neat and will be bolt on/off.  Unusually the foredeck is concave on the standard hull of course.  Ever wondered just why ?  Forestay on top of shallow hoop set back about 20cm from the bow and sock to port side of mast.  We've been talking about the sails for some time and it will not be excessively large, and with a clew that will be quite high to give good sighting under it.   The kite may well sheet to the front of the wings  as an option (we still need to try that one with the right sail) and the set-up will feature a shortish pole.  Both these features and the flat cut and modest size mean we will be able to sheet it at a wide angle relative to the hull.  These factors will hopefully allow us to go deeper than otherwise if required or relatively high if the course demands.  The basic boat is fast on a reach anyway so it should be particulalry interesting on those angles (ie not too limited or restricted to windward/leeward).  We see this as a club option for the spinnaker enthusiasts that will be easy to handle and that still allows the boat to be raced in its respective class whenever that is wanted.  Now if we make it will they come ?

No promise of production though if it is not good enough, and no rush to get it out 'first'.  There lies the rough road to disapppointment for all .. we've all seen it in the past.  Lastly - this will definately be a controlled 'in-house only' project.   Forum input always noted though ! 

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Class insignia should have a bolt through it definateley.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote blaze720 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 09 at 6:21pm

will you call it the frankenblaze ...

Probably not ...  But maybe the prototype could carry the name - I'm getting attached to it as well.   

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Originally posted by blaze720

Mike are you going to look at the kite as a bolt on option IE same as the Halo?

Yes - It does work and can be very neat and will be bolt on/off.  Unusually the foredeck is concave on the standard hull of course.  Ever wondered just why ?  Forestay on top of shallow hoop set back about 20cm from the bow and sock to port side of mast.  We've been talking about the sails for some time and it will not be excessively large, and with a clew that will be quite high to give good sighting under it.   The kite may well sheet to the front of the wings  as an option (we still need to try that one with the right sail) and the set-up will feature a shortish pole.  Both these features and the flat cut and modest size mean we will be able to sheet it at a wide angle relative to the hull.  These factors will hopefully allow us to go deeper than otherwise if required or relatively high if the course demands.  The basic boat is fast on a reach anyway so it should be particulalry interesting on those angles (ie not too limited or restricted to windward/leeward).  We see this as a club option for the spinnaker enthusiasts that will be easy to handle and that still allows the boat to be raced in its respective class whenever that is wanted.  Now if we make it will they come ?

No promise of production though if it is not good enough, and no rush to get it out 'first'.  There lies the rough road to disapppointment for all .. we've all seen it in the past.  Lastly - this will definately be a controlled 'in-house only' project.   Forum input always noted though ! 

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I am very interested, i probably couldnt afford a new boat (dependant on how much they cost) but would be very very keen to bolt onto an slightly older hull.

 

Looking forward to seeing it.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 09 at 9:37am

Latest photos of Devoti one, looks great. a few control lines look like they need cutting to the right lengths like the one on the tack of the kite, but nice looking sails that fit the mast. looks like Luca has improved it from the prototype I sailed with all his testing in Hyeres and Garda.

http://www.pierrickcontin.com/actu.php?portfolio=176&deb ut_0=0&debut_1=0

contact Rodny Cobb if you want a test sail

http://www.suntouched.co.uk/devoti-one_suntouched2.htm

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 09 at 9:46am

Have the wings grown Sten?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 09 at 10:11am
shame there's a touch of the MX-Ray about that rig...



sorry it is still the ugly love child of a MX-Ray / Fin / laser EPS styled by someone still stuck in the 70's. Blue decks, off centerline pole. The concept might be great, it may even sail well, but heavens take the thing to a decent product design studio to make it somewhere near this century.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Daniel Holman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 09 at 10:30am

Mainsails look a lot better to me. Materials and panel layout suggest Hydes - any unstayed mast will look a little strange when powered up with the kite, but I reckon they're decently stiff unlike the MX ray, and this will go upwind, unlike the MX ray. Racks look like they've been set a little higher if anything, strange despite the boats, ahem, comfortable freeboard. The booms / main foot looks to have been cut a little higher to suit.

Nice set of photos though. Decent breeze and evening sunshine on Torbole, shorts, tshirts and bare feet. Luca knows how to put on a show for hs mates!

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