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    Posted: 11 Feb 13 at 7:57pm
OK..

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We all know that sailing isn't what it used to be, the modern lifestyle will probably never allow what used to work to get people on the water. We also know that we have a big gap with the 18-35 year olds conspicuously absent from many clubs. 
 
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I love this harking back to utopia....now I missed the boom days in the 50-70s, but caught up in the late eighties and nineties.  I recall the same gap then as well.   
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Matt, I think you are right. The 18-35yr olds were always a small die hard bunch, and now that I am about to pass out of that group I can see it all happening again. More and more mid to late 30s guys are coming back to the sport as the 18yr olds drop away and try to establish livelehoods.

I do however feel that the generation who passed through their teens sailing in the late 80s and 90s took what was available, whereas todays teenagers expect perfection or they walk away. Maybe their actions in the years to come will bring about a significant change in the sport.


Anyway back to the thread, I guess there has been no further news on the validity of the Fireball win. It'll be interesting to see what happens at the next sailjuice event?
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When I was hitting my twenties in the early 90's most people didn't go to uni, they got jobs. 

Since then apprenticeships seemed to be looked down on, kids must get themselves to uni to better themselves. Even when grants were still just about available post grads never had any money to carry on sailing after uni let alone things are now. The pressure from government t get to uni might well have had an effect on that demographic.

Also these days compared to the seventies shows that they is so much more to do. Back then it was football, rugby or sailing in our area or cricket in the summer. Nowadays there is hap years and travelling around the world, everything under the sun outdoors and gaming/Internet indoors. There just isn't time to commit to sailing. If I was starting now post uni I don't think that I could find time to sail. It takes real commitment now that wasn't required years ago.
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Originally posted by maxibuddah

When I was hitting my twenties in the early 90's most people didn't go to uni, they got jobs. 

Since then apprenticeships seemed to be looked down on, kids must get themselves to uni to better themselves. Even when grants were still just about available post grads never had any money to carry on sailing after uni let alone things are now. The pressure from government t get to uni might well have had an effect on that demographic.


Yep - and how much of this factor also killed the home build route that people still hark back to....I went to Uni, but when I redecked my Grad  I had two makee-learnee chippy mates to help me.  Then add the time poorness generated by faux academic pressures.  FUBAR
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Originally posted by sargesail

Originally posted by maxibuddah

When I was hitting my twenties in the early 90's most people didn't go to uni, they got jobs. 

Since then apprenticeships seemed to be looked down on, kids must get themselves to uni to better themselves. Even when grants were still just about available post grads never had any money to carry on sailing after uni let alone things are now. The pressure from government t get to uni might well have had an effect on that demographic.


Yep - and how much of this factor also killed the home build route that people still hark back to....I went to Uni, but when I redecked my Grad  I had two makee-learnee chippy mates to help me.  Then add the time poorness generated by faux academic pressures.  FUBAR

In my instance absolutely none. Bought a laser, sailed it loads and alo went drinking and clubbing evn more. Had a job could afford to do both....good times and I loved it.
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Originally posted by maxibuddah


In my instance absolutely none. Bought a laser, sailed it loads and alo went drinking and clubbing evn more. Had a job could afford to do both....good times and I loved it.


Same here!
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Sorry cross-threading a little here - someone whingeing about the demise of the home built woody was my target.  Take your point though....but for perhaps 30 years those woody mirrors, grads, GPs etc were the deliverer of the boom time.
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Originally posted by craiggo

Anyway back to the thread, I guess there has been no further news on the validity of the Fireball win. It'll be interesting to see what happens at the next sailjuice event?


I understood the Voltaire quote to be both an admission of guilt and a statement of defiance. ie they knew what they were doing, thought it was OK to test the sails, wern't sorry and expect the result to stand, which it will wont it ?
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Without a protest it stands surely? (Not that I'm calling for one btw)
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