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    Posted: 29 Jan 14 at 4:21pm
With hypothermia you need to warm up slowly rather than suddenly, so a warm shower is better than hot etc.  you learn this as part of your RYA First Aid training when you want to become any sort of coach or instructor.  You do need to do something though, so standing around cold is not an option.  Fit people can be just as prone as unfit too.
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And warm the core first so that the blood doesn't rush to the extremities... Is that correct?
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Originally posted by 2547

My biggest concern was separation from the boat on a capsize so I clip the tail of my mainsheet to my BA.


Every time I think about doing that I then start thinking about my buoyancy bags ripping free of the hull, and the whole boat sinking.

I know it isn't likely, but still I get paranoid...
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Originally posted by 2547

My biggest concern was separation from the boat on a capsize so I clip the tail of my mainsheet to my BA.


Every time I think about doing that I then start thinking about my buoyancy bags ripping free of the hull, and the whole boat sinking.

I know it isn't likely, but still I get paranoid...

How could attaching the mainsheet tail to your buoyancy aid lead to your buoyancy bags ripping out?
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Every time I think about doing that I then start thinking about my buoyancy bags ripping free of the hull, and the whole boat sinking.

Clip it with one of those plastic hooks, so you can pull it out easily if the highly improbable happens! That may make it more likely that the mainsheet will detach itself from you, but it will stop the boat taking you to the bottom when that pesky submarine torpedoes you, and it still makes you less likely to lose contact with the boat after a capsize.
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Originally posted by PeterG

Every time I think about doing that I then start thinking about my buoyancy bags ripping free of the hull, and the whole boat sinking.

Clip it with one of those plastic hooks, so you can pull it out easily if the highly improbable happens! That may make it more likely that the mainsheet will detach itself from you, but it will stop the boat taking you to the bottom when that pesky submarine torpedoes you, and it still makes you less likely to lose contact with the boat after a capsize.


Ah ... I see what you are getting at now ... the whole boat taking you down to the seabed ...

As stated above use a clip you can undo ... 

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http://www.norfolkmarine.co.uk/shop-online/small-shackle-lightweight-plastic-pair-p-21657.html
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I think you're more likely to get prop-chopped by the rescue boat than that!!!
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When you're a couple of miles offshore and you get hit by 52kts blowing offshore (Hartlepool Radial Qualifier 2005) and you've been separated from your boat 2 times, you take your chances and tie your mainsheet around your waist.
 
The likelihood of your boat going down is negligible in comparison, unless your boat is known to have hull damage, in which case you clearly wouldn't attach yourself to it.


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Originally posted by sargesail

Originally posted by Ruscoe

Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by Hector

Originally posted by yellowwelly


In a week or two you'll chalk that up to experience; one you might hope to not repeat, but an experience that will in someway have enriched your life for the better.

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Yep ... it is always the horrible gnarly days that stick in the memory .... bring 'em on ...

Whilst I'm sure most dinghy sailors love a gnarly day, this was somewhat more than that.  It was a freak storm which was unsailable and life threatening IMO.  It would be enough to put the most hardcore sailors off sailing again.  Luckily no one was hurt, but I should imagine many have a new found respect for Mother Nature.  It's certainly one to talk about at the club bar!

It's been interesting following this thread while I couldn't post, and some FB stuff too.  

The debate about self-imposed limits/confidence is interesting, but what I take away from this is that in what was arguably the worst conditions UK dinghy sailing has been exposed to in signifcant numbers due to freak strong winds in the depths of winter (water cold even if air not that bad).  Which were demonstrably unsailable, and yes potentially life threatening.

But the fact is nobody did die, I have heard no reports of significant injury (including cold injury - whoever it was who complained about the lack of warm water in the shower - you weren't that cold or you wouldn't have cared!) (See Tiger Trophy 12 - delayed shower for 45 minutes in order not to damage feet by rapid warming).  Which to me shows that the control measures in place for the risks were adequate....And we can bring this forward when the Health and Safety Bde show up.
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Originally posted by yellowwelly

I think you're more likely to get prop-chopped by the rescue boat than that!!!

I'm sure you're right, but I was seriously worried a few years back that the boat would sink when I was holed on the waterline and filled the buoyancy tank with water. I was not sure the foam core would offer enough buoyancy to stay afloat (it was awash to the sidedecks) and thought it might end up at the bottom of Lake Garda.

All OK in the end (there is enough buoyancy) but I got someone to follow me closely all the way in just in case
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