The Tasar v the Icon

Hi Jim

Nobody is suggesting he does not know about stats .... the point is that he does know !  As has been highlighted we can all be highly selective with our 'sample' selection and sample size if we are promoting a view either way.   Bottom line is a Delphi kind of approach at this stage for new classes, as argued, perhaps backed up by simple comparative trials, is pretty certain  to be more useful.

Hi Jeepers

You are of course absolutely right !   I do know however that at least one 'other' out there is monitoring this particular 'lie of the land' as they anticipate the future.   We are just the occasional ‘stalking horse’ for others here ..... 

The standard approach remains - 'Have a go in Icon yourself'  but it does us little harm if some, yet to try one themselves in anger, keep saying what a fantastically fast boat we have managed to produce...  Profile and general awareness is vitally important for Icon at this time but the EN/PN stuff is a bore frankly.   In any event we totally agree and it is only the extent to which Icons pace is quick that separates us.  

The PN/EN debate is a bit dry at best and no forum based conclusions, if they were even possible, will prevail anyway.  Perhaps a much more interesting line to consider in relation to Icon would be to  'What do we need to do to make Icon  faster still - while keeping to the 2-sail basic concept ?'  .... and for that matter  'How would you improve/update the Tasar ?'

Mike L.

Icon manufacture .... and futures.

An official announcement will be made in August by the new Icon builder and by Cirrus (as design rights holder).   The details have remained 'dry' for a considerable time but as they are starting to 'leak out' now ..... 

A number of commercial changes and some technical Icon spec related ones were, in our judgement at least, totally necessary and needed addressing without delay.   Cirrus and the CA have therefore been working behind the scenes with another specialist builder for many months now to ensure a secure and certain future for Icon.

We would of course prefer it if Devoti continued to build and market boats in mainland Europe alongside the new builder supplying here and in other overseas markets but ultimately it is their call and they do see the market rather differently today.  Devoti still own an official set of core Icon tooling and under our agreement with them they can join with us again in the future if they wish under the agreed terms.

Double handed boats are possibly in relative decline it is true - but at Cirrus we believe this is in part cyclical and partly down to demographic changes and the marketing approach now required.

 Mike L. (Cirrus Raceboats Limited)