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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
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I reckon approx 2% of club sailors - and even then those in more heavy air friendly craft - could get round the course in a true 30kts.
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G.R.F. ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
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That isn't 30 + knots, no whitecaps downwind, that water state? 25 if that..
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2.5 hour race starting from 12 with the wind trace given at the start of the video. Average is always between 25-30 with gust up to 35 knots. It's in the harbour though, so relatively flat. Although the chop is often more difficult than proper waves.
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ellistine ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 762 |
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Something I noticed during the last Sail for Gold, the Portland Harbour anemometers were reading nearly 30knots yet the on the water commentators where reporting 16knots on their handhelds. As somebody who basis whether to sail or not on what the wall says, I wouldn't be surprised if I've ever sailed in much more than 20knots.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Wind shear. Handhelds will be too low to be very reliable. Its wind speed ten to 15 feet up that really counts. |
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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Windspeed is normally standardised at 10 metre height. For weather people anyway. At the sea surface it will be a fraction of that. What happens at the height of a dinghy rig will vary according to how turbulent the air is. So 16 knots at deck level could easily be 30knots at 10 metres. |
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Contender443 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1211 |
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Mind you most ROs on a committee boat will be measuring the wind strength at about that height. They may also be using a yachts mast head anenometer.
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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A common one we use in offshore calcs is the little ^ means to the power of, so 30knots at 10m would be equate to approximately 26.6kn at 3m and 23.8kn at 1m where a rib driver may be sat.
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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
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The anemometers at Weymouth tend to overread a fair bit, as do the bramble/chi/camber/sotonmet ones to a lesser extent.
I think that what we dinghy sailors refer to as x kts is the wind speed at yacht mast height. Of course the handheld at an angle to the wind next to the rib console behind the fat bloke will read a fair bit less. |
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So it seems it is another case of forum wind.
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