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timnoyce 
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Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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 Topic: 12ft skiffPosted: 28 Jun 05 at 11:20am |
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i stand corrected! i was trying to get them to introduce the miners
helmet at the cherub nats this year, and the winner to neck a helmet
full of beer.
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Skiffe
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Joined: 24 Jun 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 220 |
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Posted: 28 Jun 05 at 10:49am |
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First off we don't call it a "pitchpole" we call it "going down the mine" or just "mining". This wins you and you crew a beer, which must be skulled, this boat got fourth in the series and nearly won the "Underall Trophy", Yes there is a BETTER photo which is of the Australian boat that won the Interdomions. Cherubs are WIDER than 12's at least the Ozzie one are, lines for the Woof Hull, current design, are on our web site. I have seen posted on the pic of the week, lines for a UK Cherub. As for sail area, we take 3-4 distinct rigs to a race with some people having reef points and/or other jibs to create the perfect rig for the race or regatta. If you don't like you sails you may change them overnight and race with them without any kind of penalty. We also "rig for the holes", that is pick a rig to get you "powered up" in all conditions expected in that race. We can be powered up in 5 knots & up to about 25-30 knots, after that you are "in the lap of the Gods".
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Granite
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Joined: 12 May 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 476 |
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Posted: 27 Jun 05 at 10:05pm |
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The 12's also have multiple rigs and change down to smaller sails
when the wind gets up. the smallest rig is probably about the same size
as the old UK cherub rig upwind but with a larger kite.
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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Strawberry
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Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337 |
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Posted: 27 Jun 05 at 8:38pm |
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The 12's carry s**t loads of sail because their area is unrestricted. The Cherubs carry 15.5m2 beacuse this is what the class rules allow.
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Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry
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Mike278
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Posted: 27 Jun 05 at 6:07pm |
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no, they both have a beam of 1.8m, so they probably carry so much more sail because they are just crazy
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Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
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m_liddell
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Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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Posted: 27 Jun 05 at 5:58pm |
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Why/how do 12ft skiffs carry so much more sail than cherubs? Are they just much wider?
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timnoyce
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Posted: 27 Jun 05 at 3:47pm |
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thats a nice example of a pitchpole. next time i expect to see it a bit
straighter with the tip of the mast hitting the water first in a
perfect line
 on a serious note, big respect to you 12 sailors. I really need to give it a go at some point. I thought that my cherub was fast downwind with my 18m kite but with a 60odd it must be insane! |
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matt peat
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Joined: 27 Jun 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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Posted: 27 Jun 05 at 1:07pm |
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The reason that we sail 12's like that is because they are prone to nose diving becuase of the amount of sail area that we carry. See.
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Skiffe
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Joined: 24 Jun 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 220 |
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Posted: 25 Jun 05 at 3:25am |
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No we do not reef. we take with us different sized rigs generally three to four complete with masts or you can have 2 masts with a stumping arrangement similer to an inter 14. follow the link www.skiff.org.au to see more |
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Wave Rider
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Joined: 27 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 909 |
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Posted: 24 Jun 05 at 10:16pm |
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Good question but skiffs dont reef mate, thye change down a rig size cos they have diffrent rig sizes depending on the wind conditions.
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