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Ian29937 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 409 |
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.. oh ok. Don't forget that the equalisation is applied in bands. The lower limit is not defined for the 12kg range as this is the maximum correctors we carry, but this would be the point from which to measure the disadvantage Jaws faced.
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Jaws ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 92 |
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The real issue I have is a lack of a crew, and that holds for any two-man boat really. I considered the feva at the end of last year after 3 years in the laser, but I was never a big fan of them. I'd just like to see whether it would be worth it to consider an asymmetric singlehander. Even the Vareo S is 8 square metres, which is a lot given that I find the radial hard enough. It's a real shame that it's so hard to get a reliable helm/crew for the 29er; the crew I initially had lined up seemed to change the moment the boat arrived, and suddenly began treating me and my dad with incredible arrogance. Having kicked him off pretty quickly - I can't stand being shouted at on the water - I've now ended up sailing with a different person each time I go out
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radixon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2407 |
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Boats I owned:
Laser - Radial and Full (sold) RS200 RS700 (sold) RS Feva I bought the 700 as I was bored of the Laser, was a great boat in light winds, but when the wind blew above a F4 I struggled and ended up staying on the shore. If you can get out every weekend and are happy to swim and are fit enough to recover teh boat each time you go over, I'd say its worth a shot, however I didn't finish a race in the time I owned the boat, mainly due to lack of time on the water and I got fed up. I bought the Feva to sail with my little bro 12 who is relatively short so we do well together. When it is a cadet race, he helms, when it is windy, I helm. If you have a strong Feva fleet, I'd say you are better off perfecting your sailing, getting loads of time on the water, and save your pennies and when you have loads buy yourself a 100. I sailed one for over an hour on an RYA instructors event and really enjoyed every minute of it. You could always buy a cheap Laser to use when you have no Feva crew if the other party own the boat. |
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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1.80m hole 8 until you get to 73kg, Jaw's weight 60kg (obviously he's not a great white just yet)....therefore potentially he is at least 12kg below the point where he would be maximsing hole 8? Or do i read the whole table wrong
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Ian29937 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 409 |
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Hi Jaws
I have to say that at 60 kg you are probably too light to handle the 700 at the moment. In terms of performance, by being 8 kg outside of the equalisation range you will have the same sort of "right weight for the conditions" issues non-equalised classes have to deal with being quick in the light and downwind and struggling in a blow. These will still be less than normal due to the equalisation, but still there.
My real concern however is that you will find the boat much too powerfull in everything except a light/medium wind and will struggle to right the boat after a capsize. We have had some young ladies try the boat and prove to be very good in the right conditions but do you want to limit your sailing like this?
I'm not quite sure where Neptune has calculated the 12kg disadvantage from.......
Cheers
Ian
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simonrh ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 186 |
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I should add "skiff-style" sailing as I know the vortex isn't a skiff.
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simonrh ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 186 |
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Considered a Vortex? I reckon it's an easy to get on with intro to asymmetric single handed skiff sailing?
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themeaningoflife ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 May 11 Location: Essex/ Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
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If there's lots of Fevas at your club why don't you crew for somebody small and develop a partnership so you can continue together next year. Not only can you absolutely nail all your kite work, it helps upcoming sailors. I don't know how good you are but speaking from experience there is nothing like 100 boat+ events like the Feva Nationals and Worlds to hone all your tactics and stratline techniques etc. I have been in roughly the same position myself: Arguably I'm too big for a Feva myself yet I have found a small crew so I can get one extra year being competitive whilst sailing my 9er on really windy/ non-feva days. Just being out on the racecourse where you know you are going to be at least as good as anybody else makes learning more so much easier. :) hope my views were helpful (a bit)
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Jaws ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 92 |
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That's exactly why I'm wondering whether I'd manage. Unless he changes his mind this weekend, I'm not going to have anyone to sail with this year other than my dad once a fortnight, which isn't ideal for either of us. Whether I'd be able to find someone next year is questionable; we have an immense Feva contingent, and I don't expect them to change up until the end of next year really. Does the S sail on the Vareo have its own PY? It's not on the list.
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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Have you looked at the rack setting guide:
The lowest weight they run the table down to is 68kg....i don't know how tall you are but guessing around 6ft your going to be trying to compete in an equalised boat with a good 12kg disadvantage. There is always the "storm" sail for teh vareo that trys to make it more manageable for smaller sailors. Depends upon what you want really....do you just want a boat for 12 months until your chosen helm comes out of teh feval and into the 29er?
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