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Rupert 
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 Topic: SMOD UpgradePosted: 12 Oct 10 at 4:22pm |
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Are we not talking about St Mawes Ones Designs here, then? Delightful boats racing in Carrick Roads, and I'm sure they have updated them over the years!
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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jeffers
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Posted: 12 Oct 10 at 4:56pm |
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I believe you are correct in terms of the tolerances. However we are talking about design changes as opposed to design tolerances here.....
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Paul
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Merlinboy
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Posted: 12 Oct 10 at 5:01pm |
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Yes its right in small doses, The blaze class seem to of got it right. If it s major change look at the V3000, thats hardly taken off. The boat is infinitely better now but you hardly see a V3000.
I supose the 400 guys should be grateful that RS are listening to what they want, They could always just release a new boat completely!! Look what has happend to the Vareo.
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winging it
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Posted: 12 Oct 10 at 5:36pm |
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I am currently rebuilding a smod. Theoretically I should buy all the parts from the manufacturer to keep it all class legal and guess what? They are ridiculously over priced. SMODS are indeed the spawn of satan.
End of rant, going back outside to sand the only smod in my fleet, then I'm selling it. Edited by winging it - 12 Oct 10 at 5:37pm |
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Steve411
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Joined: 09 Sep 08 Location: Cheddar, Somerset, England Online Status: Offline Posts: 705 |
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Posted: 12 Oct 10 at 5:58pm |
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Are you allowed to sand it?
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JimC
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Posted: 12 Oct 10 at 6:29pm |
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Not necessarilly no, you normally have choices as regards the gear,fittings and so on. Rules vary, but its usually only the bits the manufacturer has to commission specially that are restricted. You can buy Holt blocks or whatever from anywhere. |
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blaze720
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Posted: 12 Oct 10 at 8:29pm |
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The blaze class seem to of got it right.
Not that difficult - keep ALL upgrades suitable for application to all existing hulls so that they are still more than 'token' compettive without a second mortgage. Make the 'new' boats significantly faster (and you will be tempted - won't you) and you end up upsetting existing owners. And for the Blaze ..... 2010 result ? The Blaze has just had its most successful year - largest Nationals ever at Warsash in June and last weekend largest ever Inlands at Bala. Nothing wrong with improving occasionally - but usually best to avoid 'go fast stripe' improvements that add nothing but cost and overly expensive changes that annoy the faithfull class core who don't see the point. They can be too conservative but if at all possible carry them with you - even if they come with a few reservations. The power of an existing class is the existing owners - even the 'silent majority' that might need the odd wake up call now and again. 400 ? Ripe for a bit of an upgrade .... with care. Mike L. |
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Chris 249
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Posted: 13 Oct 10 at 4:19am |
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Isn't that almost impossible to assess if one is already a fan who has probably grown up looking at Merlins? The Merlin is a fantastic boat, no doubt about it, but does it really look "modern"? Looking at undoubtably modern boats that are leading edge in performance or fairly new and fast growing (49er, Moth, RS 200, Feva, MPS, RS100, new Int 14, etc) one can't see any MR features such as small symmetrical kites, clinker hulls, the very distinctive MR mainsail leach, or a lack of wings/trap in a performance class. That's not saying that the MR is not a beautiful classic machine and outstandingly efficient, but maybe it's not modern-looking in the style of a foiler Moth, canting keel maxi, Hydroptere or Bieker I-14.
Similarly, I've got 1982 development-class kit that (while beautiful and classic) clearly looks different from the new stuff, whereas my 1977 Tasar could look indistinguishable from a 2010 Tasar if I threw a few $ at it.
It could also be said that whether SMODs (or other ODs) are stuck in the past is irrelevant, because that concept implies that being leading edge in design was one of their major selling points or design aims. Surely very few people who buy a Topper, Laser, Squib, XOD or L2000 are playing the "my boat looks modern" game? Perhaps saying that SMODs are stuck in the past is like saying that MRs are slow because they can't beat a Tornado.... sure, it's true, but that speed comparison is irrelevant to the appeal of the MR, and the modernity of a SMOD (or many other ODs) is largely irrelevant to their appeal.
Interesting, too, that the sailing scene from maxis to dinghies these days tends to be moving more and more towards ageing classes; maybe being stuck in the past is now leading edge?
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RS400atC
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Posted: 13 Oct 10 at 9:11am |
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Some good points Chris.
We are very conditioned as consumers to want the latest stuff.
New iphone, 2010 model Audi, latest computer, all clearly work better and more desirable than gear from 10 years ago.
For some people this spills over into wanting new stuff for the sake of it being new. Kids gotta have the latest music etc.
But sailing is not just about owning a nice boat, its about racing it.
And more modern is not always better in everything, I don't want a Barratt house, thanks.
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