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    Posted: 30 Mar 08 at 11:48pm

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Back in the day

I had my first oppy at the age of 4, Sailed it around on the end of a long rope inside pontoons. Started doing my rya level 1+2 ect at 6 (well the ioca version), at 8 i was more than happily club racing, and at 10 i got into the Welsh National Optimist Squad, at this point i went to every event on the calender and more, sailed almost every weekend. When i was 14 i was offered a spt in the national squad but turned it down as i wanted to sail 4.7's.

I did the whole oppy thing, all the reggatta's all the training the works. My dad is a sailing instructor and encouraged me at all times. But sailing was always my choice from a young age i became nuts about the sport, all my closest friends sailed and it was what i wanted to do.

The squads and national events are what taught me how to race, it wasn't always easy but it was always my choice.

My rents were typical oppy parents, dad always watching through bino's mum always fussing that we didn't have enough sun cream on. The thing is at the time i just completly ignored them, let them do what they wanted to do, whilst i had a laugh with my mates.

I don't know why anyone can slate the optimist class and its squad systems ect. It gave me the best start in the sport i could have possibly wished for and has generated many many very good sailors. The racing standard is incredible, by far some of the toughest sailing i have ever done but it helped you learn essential racing skills.

Anybody who slates the class is an idiot...be all...end all...

I've been there, grown up with the system.. I know the truth.
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I can't wait till my daughter is old enough for her first Oppi! 

How old should kids be when they start in oppi's, i started sailing at 5 is this about right??  When i was a lad there was no such thing as youth squad really, i just had my dad shouting at me from the safety boat! 

When my little girl is of the youth squad age it will be her choice as to what speed she progresses if at all!!! 

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Saw an oppi sailor today racing in really thick socks? Don't know if this is a regular occurrence in the oppi fleet?
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Unfortunately with Optimists having some of the biggest turn outs at events of any class you are likely to get a better demographic representation of the UK's population. And so you will get the Good, the Bad and the Ugly in larger amounts. You can find all of these types in all the classes. Except without the added burden of being a parent and all the worries and aspirations you have when you are one.

I never sailed Oppy's when I was a Kid. I wish I had more than anything. The class, the event organisation and coaching is second to none. I was just bellowed at by my parent crewing a Mirror and thoroughly put off the whole idea of sailing. The difference being here that it wasn't obvious to others, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen on mass. A trick that is hard to cover up when the same proportion of over zealous parents are several hundred feet away on the shore or in coaching boats.

My point is. Don't sl*g off a class of boat for something that is endemic in our society. And don't deny children the opportunity of a fantastic start in sailing because of a narrow minded view. Why not set an example to others and participate in a fantastic class BUT add a positive influence to it and show the way to others. Rather than chuck stones from the crowd (that's meant in the biblical sense).

As for Oppy Kit. Most of the Oppy sailors at our club. 70+ on Summer weekends. Wear a range of gear but the most popular is:

SUMMER

Rooster Hikers
Rooster Hot Top
Rooster Aqua Fleece
Crewsaver BA

WINTER

Drysuits

quite a few Henry Lloyd as well as made to measure suits from various makers.
Some made to measure suppliers will add a section to the body to the dry suit  to extend the life of the suit after a growing spurt.

Other than that there are quite a few outlets for Oppy kit on-line like
Pinnel & Bax
Optiparts

One thing though.... buying all the kit dose not make your kid go faster, it just makes you more anxious that they should.

I suggest buying it when they needed it.

My sons boat is 2060, wooded, but still underweight, he sails in an equally old Typhoon drysuit and is as fast / faster than others with boats and kit that is half / quarter of the age of his. He has only just been bought a new sail after doing well (12th) at our open meeting in a fleet of 60.

Hope that helps.


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where I say; 'you', it is a general statement about all.

The Oppy circuit can be a fantastic experience for the novice. If fact I would say it is one of the best things about the class.

At many open meetings there are REGATTA fleet starts as well as MAIN fleet.

REGATTA fleet are NOVICE sailors. They normally race one lap of the MAIN fleet course. Are coached as they sail by rescue boats (not parents) They often are give a SPECIAL briefing by the RO so they understand what is going on i.e: This you start flag etc And also have a RIB to follow around the course. And best of all there are always plenty of prizes, and not just for the winners.

In all a great way to learn about racing.








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Originally posted by alstorer

Originally posted by FireballNeil

Originally posted by ptcruiser


Originally posted by FireballNeil

Anybody at the rutland 29er/49er/B14 open would agree that "oppie kit" should include a firing squad


Good to see you are helping to encourage young sailors



I'm 16



Ah, so you're one of the annoying 29er kids at Rutland that weekend?

We have a winner!

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Originally posted by FireballNeil

Originally posted by ptcruiser


Originally posted by FireballNeil

Anybody at the rutland 29er/49er/B14 open would agree that "oppie kit" should include a firing squad


Good to see you are helping to encourage young sailors



I'm 16



Ah, so you're one of the annoying 29er kids at Rutland that weekend?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote olly_love Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 08 at 10:40pm
Originally posted by tack'ho

Well the thing is 'Sailing stuff' is rarely specific to a single class, what you're asking for is a bit like asking what are good clothes for driving a Vauxhall Corsa!

isnt it 3 stripe trousers and burbary tops and a cap pushed back over your head

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Originally posted by ptcruiser

Originally posted by FireballNeil

Anybody at the rutland 29er/49er/B14 open would agree that "oppie kit" should include a firing squad

Good to see you are helping to encourage young sailors

I'm 16

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Well the thing is 'Sailing stuff' is rarely specific to a single class, what you're asking for is a bit like asking what are good clothes for driving a Vauxhall Corsa!

What time of year will she be sailing? this will have an impact but I would focus my attention on a decent spray/dry top, with growing space.  Also i would look at a second hand wetsuit, unless you made of money and enjoy spending it I remember i used to go through wetsuits at a stupid rate.

ps.  As I hope you are beginning to see it's not Oppie kid sthat tend to wind people up it is some of the parents, so please for the sanity of alot of other people stay sane.  If, as I assume you have, you have checked that the centre/club she is learning at is properly accredited/run then leave them to it.  Oh and offers to help out with general club duties as opposed to the ones that only apply to your child will probably see your child get looked after around the club if you get what i mean



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Clothing choice depends on where and when she is going to sail.  A shortie is really only feasible for a child at the peak of summer - kids get cold much more quickly than adults.  But of course buying drysuits etc can be expensive given she will quickly grow out of such things. 

A wetsuit can't really allow much room for growth - the secret of its success lies in it being close fitting.  A drysuit can be great in the winter and allow some room for growth, but doesn't help much in the summer.

If I were you I'd be doing the sneaky thing of taking her to a store and seeing what she thinks feels comfortable, while at the same time making a note of sizes, then I'd be trawling ebay, which is always full of second hand kids kit just because kids grow so fast.

What you mustn't compromise on is her buoyancy aid - if it's too big it could be lethal by riding up over her head.  Make sure it is securely fastened then pull it up by grabbing the shoulder straps.  If it rides up above her chin, it's too big.

Do be wary of the oppi circuit.  Yes, the kids are just starting out, but many of them, and more so their parents, are fiercely competitive.  The oppi circuit is the way in to the youth squad and then the olympic circus.  Unfortunately oppi parents here throw money into boats, gear etc and fail to recognise their kids aren't having fun any more. 
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