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    Posted: 13 Jun 07 at 8:41am
Remember without funding very few sailors could sail full time (before funding virtually all UK were amateur, holding down jobs and not sailing full time and thus not getting the same time on the water as other countries top sailors). The huge increase in full time sailors also made coaching a variable career, rather than a second source of income.
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Originally posted by giraffe

The funding process is flawed and the money would be better spent on grass roots sailing eg a programme to help clubs combat weed growth in their water.

Surely your not suggesting that reducing weed at a few clubs is a better use of RYA/Skandia money than funding the professional sailors who travel the world representing Great Briton and making this country the most successful olympic sailing nation? 

I'm can't see Skandia putting much funding forward for an 'anti-weed' campaign either.

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Now i don't think the RYA have got it exactly right, personally i'd like to see more coaching for amateurs (not just lasers either!) made available to club level sailors.  However weed cleaning and the like?? Would Sea sailors get annoyed about cash being spent on something that doesn't concern them!  The point is you'll never please everybody but as for the top level funding, I think it's fair to say the results speak for themselves! 
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Originally posted by tack'ho

Now i don't think the RYA have got it exactly right, personally i'd like to see more coaching for amateurs (not just lasers either!) made available to club level sailors. 

Thats a good point tack'ho. I see plenty of race training weekends organised by class associations and run by volunteers, and people seem to take a lot from these events.  I'd like to see RYA training weekends which are independant of class or club, open to all levels of sailor, run by RYA coaches and available at a small fee.  Wishfull thinking maybe, but i'm sure plenty of sailors would take advantage of such a scheme and it would benefit a broad range of british sailors.

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lads i think you missed the point.

I said grass roots sailing eg. programme to help with weed.  - there are many other examples

Your examples also favour grass roots sailing and may well be better.  The fact is RYA subscriptions continue to rise but grass roots dinghy sailing, which is how most sailing members of the RYA got into the sport is chronically underinvested and appears to have no strategic direction.

Why should the RYA not drive a hard bargain with its sponsors and get them more additional exposure at a lower level.  If these medals are so valuable then the wider sport should benefit more.

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There is nothing stopping clubs getting coaches to come in and do some training, with enough takers the fee per person is quite small to get a professional coach in. The RYA provide a couple of days of coaching FOC for Volvo champion clubs, surely this counts as sporting grass roots?

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Originally posted by Jon Emmett

There is nothing stopping clubs getting coaches to come in and do some training, with enough takers the fee per person is quite small to get a professional coach in. The RYA provide a couple of days of coaching FOC for Volvo champion clubs, surely this counts as sporting grass roots?

How does a Volvo club book these free coaching days?

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Speak to your HPM.
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Originally posted by Jon Emmett

Speak to your HPM.

How do you find out who they are and their contact details?

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Chris Blackburn is the North & West Zone High Performance Manager. You can contact Chris on 07909 994637 or e-mail chris.blackburn@rya.org.uk.

Chris Atherton is the South & South West Zone High Performance Manager. You can contact Chris on 07909 994641 or e-mail chris.atherton@rya.org.uk.

Paul Wren is the East & South East Zone High Performance Manager. You can contact Paul on 07909 994642 or e-mail paul.wren@rya.org.uk



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