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Pierre 
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 Topic: Bell FlyerPosted: 10 Aug 06 at 11:41am |
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Good job Dolf !!! Looks damn fine & right on the money to me.
 Got any more piccies? |
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mike ellis
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Posted: 10 Aug 06 at 5:12pm |
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you only like em cos they're red.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Iain C
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Posted: 10 Aug 06 at 11:26pm |
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Hey each to their own. Dorf your boat looks very nice, although having seen the Bell flyer Noycey sailed I have to say it really ain't my cup of tea at all (however I did not sail it).
I was out sailing the same day in the Fireball and it really did seem slow, right up until the point where the rudder snapped off. Ho hum. However, if it looks like Dorf's and it cost £500, someone got cheap asymmetric sailing at that... |
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cvlsc96
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Joined: 11 Aug 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 10:51am |
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Bought it in a mad moment - appears to be in pretty good nick - now can someone tell me how to launch and retrieve the kite from a bag 'cos I've never done this before !?
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dbroekaart
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Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Netherlands Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 3:55pm |
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Hi Howard, Firt of all, my firstname is DOLF, not Dorf.. (sounds a bit like dork). The rigging of the boat is not too difficult. The spinnaker bag is supposed to be tied in the V shape of the spreader..The backside of the boat. (i wil send pics as soon as possible). When you're steering downwind and ready to hoist the spinnaker, you first have to pull out the gennaker boom. This has to be done by the helm. After that, make sure you always hoist the gennaker on the right side of the boat. (don't know how to call it in englisch.. > low side..?). Then you can choose to drop the jib.. Certainly the first times.. this is recommended. Then the crew or the helm can hoist the gennaker... Doesn't really matter who.. Normally at my boat the helm does this. Make sure you crew is ready to trapeze when there is wind, because you're going to need it. When ever there is a big blow of wind, make sure you have the space to fall away with the wind so you can gain speed and keep the boat flat. Gybing is also stupid simple... the only thing you need is good timing of your crew, to pull the sheet on the other side at the right moment. I Will send pic's as soon as possible
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49erGBR735HSC
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Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 4:31pm |
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When we were using bags on our old boat, we found that heading straight downwind for the hoist helped greatly. If the kite was to the windward side of the boat, we'd initially pull the pole out first to aid the kite round the forestay. By steering straight downwind, it blows the kite out in front of the boat instead of off the side and allows the crew to be free to do the hoisting. Most of the time my crew would hoist almost at the same time as launching the pole to stop the kite dragging in the water. Drops, the crew would either pull the windward sheet round the forestay, pulling the kite to windward, allowing for the kite to be dropped into the windward side of the bag. The other option we used was the gybe drop, where we'd gybe the boat leaving the kite on its original side so we could drop as in a windward drop. With windward drops, it really helps to be sailing almost straight downwind as it aids the kite to go past the forestay, if you try dropping on a reach to windward with the sheets loaded up, your crew will pretty much let you know what they think of you. I'm not sure if you would get away with a leeward drop in a Bell Flyer but its something we never tried due to the issues it would have caused us with stability and the boom being in the way. I know it sounds pretty simple but also make sure the bag opens really wide for your crew to stuff the kite into it, a tight bag is a real hassle. If you can, have a look at some 18 and 12 foot skiff videos for techniques, the Laser 5000 Eurocup footage would help a lot too but doubt you'll find too much of that stuff now.
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 7:55pm |
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Dolf I take it that's an anti-inversion device near the top of the mast rather than a radar reflector? Is inversion a big problem with the Flyer (it does look to have loads of buoyancy) or do you just sail on a shallow lake?
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cvlsc96
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Posted: 11 Aug 06 at 9:04pm |
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Thanks for all the advice regarding kite technique - I'm looking forward to trying this out.
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timnoyce
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Posted: 12 Aug 06 at 1:48am |
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BEARFOOT DESIGN
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dbroekaart
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Posted: 12 Aug 06 at 3:32pm |
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hi all, Please find beneath the promised pictures.. The anti-inversion thing in the mast is a small bouy made of a typical HDPE Plastic. I heated it with a lighter, and pushed a dent in it, so that it fits around the mast. it has 10 l volume.. the water i sail on is very shallo,. In this way i can prevent putting my mast upside down in the mud. Best regards Dolf Broekaart |
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As what did the item start out in life?
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