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KazR ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 28 Aug 15 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 15 |
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I wouldn't worry too much about the racing confusing the public - the cycling at the velodrome must take the biscuit for that. Races where they cycle as slow as possible for half the race, one where they follow a motor bike for a bit and one, the omnium(?) where nobody has a clue what's going on. Makes sailing look obvious really
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Yep. Stuff like the points race is confusing to watch - even for those of us who actually do them ourselves! Edited by Chris 249 - 01 Sep 16 at 1:04am |
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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I reckon a knockout series is the way to go. Bottom 4 boats in each race are excluded from the competition. Start with 22, and the final two go at it in a winner takes all match race!
Its a similar concept to other sports and would make it both easy to understand and entertaining to the last. As for location, we can all moan about the venue but some of the best racing this year has been on the city courses in extreme 40s, or M32 series where its hardly described as a sailors paradise. So Im happy for the city courses to stay, just got to get the events to be of interest. Actually sod it, lets just do it in M32s with a Mens quad and a womens quad????? |
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Yes, the rig wasn't made totally one design. Shirley Robertson's 2000 boat had a wing mast and much of the development cost was to improve aerodynamics. After Sydney the outer cross sections of masts were standardised to give identical aerodynamics and outlaw wing masts. The amount of carbon and its distribution were still uncontrolled to give variations in stiffness for different sized sailors and you could have any cut of sail from any sailmaker. Europe rigs were never supplied equipment at the Olympics. Understandable that the Laser Radial came in with the benefit of affordability.
The mast remains the most expensive bit of a Europe. Hope I never break mine! Andy |
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What is "the average size athletic" woman, or man for that matter? How do you define "athletic"? The only Radial Olympian I know, btw, is neither exceptionally tall or beefy.
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iiiiticki ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 16 Location: Derbyshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 206 |
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I believe the Europe was discarded because it was expensive and tricky to maintain its performance. they wanted an 'out of the box' ladies boat......and chose the Radial over the Byte, which was perfect for the job. Oh well....
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The lady who won the London Radial Gold was over six foot I believe and her coach was quoted as saying that ideally a Radial sailor needs to be over 12 stone. Most athletic girls I know, including my own daughter, are usually about 5' 4" to 5'6" and 8 - 9 stone. That is average height for a woman and if you train for fitness rather than power you will not put on bulk. Sarah Ayton and Shirley Robertson from Europe days certainly fitted that template.
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iiiiticki ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 16 Location: Derbyshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 206 |
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Byte can cope with a variety of weights up to a certain limit. Heavier helms have an easier time in a blow but loose out down wind in the light....swings and roundabouts....but to see a 7 stone girl with block to block cunninham on and coping in wind is a sight to see.
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I can remember being slaughtered on here for calling you a moron (brotherly love) when you were saying how great foiling races were, and I insisted the close racing of more speed-matched boats was far more exciting. You've changed. Must be cos you sail a slow boat now ;-) |
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Sailing is not that difficult to understand, well class racing anyway. I frequently find myself explaining it to the uninitiated whilst spectating. But of course that is on lakes. It should be possible out to sea as well using drones and tracking. The problem is that no one ever tries. F1 would not be very exciting if all you had was one camera on the start/finish line or if you saw the cars off, went away for a cup of tea and a pie and came back for the end.
At Castle Cove recently I was talking to Glenn Trusswell, who is leading the I 14 Worlds at the moment, and looking at the incredible boat. Stick a Go Pro on that thing pointing at he and Pascoe combined with a drone.....how exciting would that be?
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