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RS800 or 49er? |
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CurlyBen ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 05 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 539 |
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Yes please! It's not Richard Leech by any chance is it?
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les5269 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1530 |
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Well if your interested I may be able to get you a ride (if his crew isn't better
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49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)!
Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
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CurlyBen ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 05 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 539 |
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Thanks, yes I've heard a lot about the slalom! I've had a bit of a
change of plan for this weekend so I probably won't be up this Sunday
but I should be next Sunday so hopefully I'll see you then!
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les5269 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1530 |
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CurlyBen we are for at least the next 3 w-ends (asymmetric slalom is on) feel free to come up we both sailed 5000's as well so if you need any advice just ask.Hope to see Sunday. |
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CurlyBen ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 05 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 539 |
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Great, thanks les! are you likely to be up this weekend? Think I'm
going to get a 5000 initially and then move into a 49er in a year or
so, when i've got some more money and some practice twinning! Just want
to get sailing again, haven't been for months now
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les5269 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1530 |
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I sail a 49er at Grafham. Your welcome to come and have a chat (or if I can persuade my helm) have a try The boat is 531 come and join us we regulary get 3-4 49ers and a couple of 800s and 5000s out
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49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)!
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Hugh ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 06 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 44 |
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I sail a 4000, and i agree that hiking is a b*stard! I'm probably moving to an 800 next year (see the RS800 thread); I'm tempted by the 9er but having sailed one a week or so back was acutely aware that the person I was sailing with was doing alot of work to make my life easy. I had a brief go at helming, helming from the wire felt natural but it was obvious that a lot of practise would be necessary even to make the boat manageable. We had a bit of a moment with a lull, I bore away to keep us on the wire. The lull was brief and followed by a slight gust. Sure enough having born away i immediately needed to head up, which i didnt spot till it was too late and we got wet. I think this sums the boat up nicely. One other thing that I noticed was the lack of any sensation of speed. The boat planes so flat and displaces so little that it feels significantly slower than the 4000; though in reality you know you'd well and truly paste just about everything else on the water.
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CurlyBen ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 05 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 539 |
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Thanks, maybe the best thing for me to do is get over to Grafham and
try and get a go on a boat or two. I've got someone willing to crew for
me but I don't know yet quite what her sailing standard is, or how much
time she's prepared to put in. I was a bit suprised looing at prices of
700s, they're cheaper (second hand) than I thought they were, I might
have to try and find you at Grafham Ian. I was thinking about a 4000
but I really want to helm on the wire... lots to think about.
Cheers!
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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I've sailed both but briefly in both cases. I'm not fit enough to sail a 49er for more than 20 minutes. I can do strong and I can do agile (well a bit) but I can't do both for long and that's the sort of athleticism required by the 49er. The 800 is a little easier. Both require a regular crew and probably training on a Saturday as well as racing on a Sunday or you'll be disappointed with your performance. I regard sailing these 2 classes as a very demanding occupation and a real handful in any sort of breeze. I'd suggest a 4000 unless you are an aspiring olympian. I can go out and enjoy a force 5 in a 4000 and survive a 6. A 49er is beyond me in a 5 - even a 4 - and a 800 is nearly as terrifying. I have to say I admire the design of an 800 - all that performance from a boat which is not that big. On the other hand the 49er is beautifully spacious for running across and doesn't feel that fast when its going very fast. |
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Ian29937 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 409 |
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I know you're asking about RS800 vs 49er, but if you don't have a regular crew lined up, the RS700 may well an easier answer. Plus, there is already a fleet at Chew for when you return. I'll be at Grafham most weekends if you want to have a look. Ian RS700 GBR912 |
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