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    Posted: 25 Nov 05 at 10:36pm
Yes please! It's not Richard Leech by any chance is it?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote les5269 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 05 at 10:22pm
Well if your interested I may be able to get you a ride (if his crew isn't better )If I see him I'll ask for you?
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Thanks, yes I've heard a lot about the slalom! I've had a bit of a change of plan for this weekend so I probably won't be up this Sunday but I should be next Sunday so hopefully I'll see you then!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote les5269 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 05 at 9:16pm

CurlyBen we are for at least the next 3 w-ends (asymmetric slalom is on) feel free to come up we both sailed 5000's as well so if you need any advice just ask.Hope to see Sunday.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote CurlyBen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 11:43pm
Great, thanks les! are you likely to be up this weekend? Think I'm going to get a 5000 initially and then move into a 49er in a year or so, when i've got some more money and some practice twinning! Just want to get sailing again, haven't been for months now  I have heard that the 49er can be quite easy with a good crew/helm but a nightmare without.. I'm not that bothered about hiking, i've been team racing 420s for 5 years so i'm pretty used to it but want a change! cheers for the advice
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I sail a 49er at Grafham. Your welcome to come and have a chat (or if I can persuade my helm) have a try The boat is 531 come and join us we regulary get 3-4 49ers and a couple of 800s and 5000s out
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I sail a 4000, and i agree that hiking is a b*stard!  I'm probably moving to an 800 next year (see the RS800 thread); I'm tempted by the 9er but having sailed one a week or so back was acutely aware that the person I was sailing with was doing alot of work to make my life easy.  I had a brief go at helming, helming from the wire felt natural but it was obvious that a lot of practise would be necessary even to make the boat manageable.

We had a bit of a moment with a lull, I bore away to keep us on the wire.  The lull was brief and followed by a slight gust.  Sure enough having born away i immediately needed to head up, which i didnt spot till it was too late and we got wet.  I think this sums the boat up nicely.

One other thing that I noticed was the lack of any sensation of speed.  The boat planes so flat and displaces so little that it feels significantly slower than the 4000; though in reality you know you'd well and truly paste just about everything else on the water.

 

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Thanks, maybe the best thing for me to do is get over to Grafham and try and get a go on a boat or two. I've got someone willing to crew for me but I don't know yet quite what her sailing standard is, or how much time she's prepared to put in. I was a bit suprised looing at prices of 700s, they're cheaper (second hand) than I thought they were, I might have to try and find you at Grafham Ian. I was thinking about a 4000 but I really want to helm on  the wire... lots to think about. Cheers!
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I've sailed both but briefly in both cases.  I'm not fit enough to sail a 49er for more than 20 minutes.  I can do strong and I can do agile (well a bit) but I can't do both for long and that's the sort of athleticism required by the 49er.  The 800 is a little easier.  Both require a regular crew and probably training on a Saturday as well as racing on a Sunday or you'll be disappointed with your performance.

I regard sailing these 2 classes as a very demanding occupation and a real handful in any sort of breeze.  I'd suggest a 4000 unless you are an aspiring olympian.  I can go out and enjoy a force 5 in a 4000 and survive a 6.  A 49er is beyond me in a 5 - even a 4 - and a 800 is nearly as terrifying.

I have to say I admire the design of an 800 - all that performance from a boat which is not that big.  On the other hand the 49er is beautifully spacious for running across and doesn't feel that fast when its going very fast.

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Originally posted by CurlyBen

A regular crew is something that may be a problem initially, I'll have to think about that.

I know you're asking about RS800 vs 49er, but if you don't have a regular crew lined up, the RS700 may well an easier answer.  Plus, there is already a fleet at Chew for when you return.

I'll be at Grafham most weekends if you want to have a look. 

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