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    Posted: 31 Mar 09 at 6:41pm
Originally posted by blaze720

GRF


...they do pay quite a hefty premium for that
flexibility.


Really? I think the antithesis could be said for
Cherubs.
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In keeping with the principle of thread hijacking there is also the Canadian Stealth singlehander with kite doing well on the other side of the Atlantic

http://www2.worldpub.net/images/sw/124-The_Stealth_Dinghy_368.jpg

 

Looks nice... what about it Grumph?


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Now that does look skiffy. From the builders site it does look interesting but no close ups. Is that a gnav and kicker?

There is definitely a demand for a single-hander hiker with a kite that moves the Vareo model on and not all race tracks are suitable for trapezing. This is all good stuff.




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To go fast you need to go wide and with a single hand
hiker your going to need to keep the power down low.

If you went 6 foot wide (racked hull with tramps) and
had a jib with the mast a decent way back to allow more
area in the jib then you'll be onto a winner. The jib
would help with upwind speed and allow you take that
area out of the main and put it at a much lower level. A
stayed rig is the way forwards as well, with caps. This
would allow you to properly control the mast and tune it
to the sailor. You could then also go mast head kite
allowing you to get a much longer luff length and a
shorter foot which would make gybing easier and the kite
would have less drag. With that set up you could be
sailing at much hotter angles and working the apparent a
lot more. Make it 60 kilos all up and I
would buy one!

Of course this could all be b**locks due to just
rambling of the top of my head.

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Double post.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Smight at BBSC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 09 at 8:01pm
Originally posted by Ross

To go fast you need to go wide and with a single hand
hiker your going to need to keep the power down low.

If you went 6 foot wide (racked hull with tramps) and
had a jib with the mast a decent way back to allow more
area in the jib then you'll be onto a winner. The jib
would help with upwind speed and allow you take that
area out of the main and put it at a much lower level. A
stayed rig is the way forwards as well, with caps. This
would allow you to properly control the mast and tune it
to the sailor. You could then also go mast head kite
allowing you to get a much longer luff length and a
shorter foot which would make gybing easier and the kite
would have less drag. With that set up you could be
sailing at much hotter angles and working the apparent a
lot more. Make it 60 kilos all up and I
would buy one!

Of course this could all be b**locks due to just
rambling of the top of my head.


I have to say i agree with all of that. Although i can't profess to know the technicalities of it all in massive detail it sounds right to me.

Why didn't they just do that? Sounds like a canoe style rig with a racked hull to me which can't be a bad thing...
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Except it would be a lot shorter than a IC. 14 is too
long, 12 is slow in light winds with that little rag and
so 13 foot is a good compromise.
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Always worth trying .......

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Smight at BBSC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 09 at 8:42pm
Originally posted by Ross

Except it would be a lot shorter than a IC. 14 is too
long, 12 is slow in light winds with that little rag and
so 13 foot is a good compromise.


Why is 14 too long? Surely 14ft a better compromise overall?  
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Seeing that pic reminds me of just how shocked I am that you gave up that
mainsail for the North sail you now have.
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