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    Posted: 05 Apr 07 at 1:06pm

Originally posted by Chris 249

Once upon a time, the efficient route was quicker than the skiff route - I wonder if it's still possible (foilers apart) but it would be interesting to see. It could be fast, fun and less demanding to sail.

Don't these already exist.  NS14, N12, Tasar, 59er maybe even a B14 ?
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Originally posted by Chris 249

I'm just plotting typical righting moment for LOA on one axis, and sail area (averaging upwind/downwind although it doesn't seem to matter) for LOA on the other.

The traditional Skiff classes through the ages are all in one corner, all well clear of all the contemporary dinghies on both measures.

That computer is waiting for repairs, but from memory all the boats that I'd call "small S skiffs" - 49ers, MPSs, 700s - fit into the same sort of region as the Skiffs, and there's no examples of boats that no-one would call skiffs (Canoes, FDs etc) falling into the skiff corner.

I'm interested partly because I wonder when a new high performance DINGHY will arise - something without a skiff's high RM and big sail for length, but still fast. Once upon a time, the efficient route was quicker than the skiff route - I wonder if it's still possible (foilers apart) but it would be interesting to see. It could be fast, fun and less demanding to sail.

It would be most interesting to see the graph ...

 
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Originally posted by Guest#260

Originally posted by Chris 249

I'm just plotting typical righting moment for LOA on one axis, and sail area (averaging upwind/downwind although it doesn't seem to matter) for LOA on the other.

The traditional Skiff classes through the ages are all in one corner, all well clear of all the contemporary dinghies on both measures.

That computer is waiting for repairs, but from memory all the boats that I'd call "small S skiffs" - 49ers, MPSs, 700s - fit into the same sort of region as the Skiffs, and there's no examples of boats that no-one would call skiffs (Canoes, FDs etc) falling into the skiff corner.

I'm interested partly because I wonder when a new high performance DINGHY will arise - something without a skiff's high RM and big sail for length, but still fast. Once upon a time, the efficient route was quicker than the skiff route - I wonder if it's still possible (foilers apart) but it would be interesting to see. It could be fast, fun and less demanding to sail.

It would be most interesting to see the graph ...

 

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I sailed the GT60 Cherub on its maiden sail last week, on a pond just outside Ipswich. I'll be writing about it in the next edition of Roll Tacks in the magazine. Meanwhile here are some photos:

http://www.sailingtalk.com/GT60-launch-photos.html

and a couple of videos I took during the day:

http://www.sailingtalk.com/GT60-video.html

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looking at the pic in that link, the leech looks pretty straight.

good videos too.
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Originally posted by mike ellis

looking at the pic in that link, the leech looks pretty straight.



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Given that the trials are this week IIRC, has anyone seen or heard anything about how things are going??
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Check the news page of the Cherub site.
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Direct link to the Cherub news page here.
http://www.sailingsource.com/cherub/test/doku.php/news?purge =true

29er news is off their home page
http://www.29er.org/

Some posts in the 14 forum too.
http://www.international14.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

Nothing on the RS pages that I could see, nor from the gt60 guys.

All are somewhat slanted of course, the puff on at least one I find distinctly irritating...

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