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    Posted: 22 Feb 10 at 8:51am
Originally posted by nathan

Originally posted by ChrisC

49ers dont use a ratchet on the main.


 


Errr, yes they do. No cleats though..




Blimey Nathan, now you got me thinking - 99% sure ours hasn't got a
ratchet but if it has its a tiny fitting, not the sort of monster you find on
single handers !
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Off boom sheeting was trialled and worked well in light to medium, but
difficult in stronger winds because angles to a cleat are a compromise
between being right back in the reach/ downwind and right forward
upwind. What no- one seems to mention above is that the 49er and
the 29er work well off the boom because they are double handed and
the crew play the main forward whilst the helm stays back. For this to
work on a singlehander it will need a very trick cleat to allow it to cleat
uncleat from very difficult angles. I believe that a number of solutions
were considered, but the turret mounted cleat just worked better. I am
sure that some will pimp this boat, but it has had a really broad range
of sailors providing input so is well sorted.
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Originally posted by ChrisC



49ers dont use a ratchet on the main.

 

Errr, yes they do. No cleats though..

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Originally posted by ChrisC

Cheers Wobble. I will look out for that in the rules (and
only do it when
nobody's looking !).

49ers dont use a ratchet on the main. Not wishing to go down the
"Mainsheet Load" route again (honestly !), I would have thought that with
the
huge purchase of the sheeting from the end of the boom / transom the
mainsheet loads would be very low ? On the Vortex, which is centre boom
sheeted and hence has huge mainsheet load, I have caused very painful
crushing damage to my hands - doctors orders not to wrap sheet around
my
hand !!

No probs. Chris - given up.
Pass the skiff, man!
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Cheers Wobble. I will look out for that in the rules (and only do it when
nobody's looking !).

49ers dont use a ratchet on the main. Not wishing to go down the
"Mainsheet Load" route again (honestly !), I would have thought that with the
huge purchase of the sheeting from the end of the boom / transom the
mainsheet loads would be very low ? On the Vortex, which is centre boom
sheeted and hence has huge mainsheet load, I have caused very painful
crushing damage to my hands - doctors orders not to wrap sheet around my
hand !!
Not now Kato (you fewl) !

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Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)
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Yeah STFU Mongs lol xx

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Originally posted by ChrisC

Whilst we are on the subject on mainsheets what are the thoughts about
the 100 finalised design having a standard deck mounted turret / jammer
arrangement rather than the off-boom sheeting that was initially trialled ?

Personally I was hoping the off-boom sheeting would come to fruition as it
is such a sweet feature on the 49er, ergonomically perfect and enabling very
dynamic trim control (not a big fan of jammers and really struggle to ease
the main in gusts regardless of what I do to ease them).

Thinking of maybe using the sheet leading from the boom sailing upwind
and just using the jammer on the downwind. Will the blocks allow this ?

I doubt it, you would need the ratchet block on the boom. Also more importantly will the rules allow this? In the 500 its in the rules that you cant sheet off the boom.

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With the first production boats now launched (and lots more on their way !)
what is the situation with class rules and class association etc. ?

New to RS boats so not really sure what to expect.
Not now Kato (you fewl) !

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Look you lot, this is supposed to be a helpful RS100 owners thread, not an
arena for discussing the various sheetloads of antiquated and outmoded
garbage..

Start your own thread, here let me suggest a title.

Sheet Loads on Sad Boats for Simpletons..

So stfu & fotsyot.


edit sorry Chris C not aimed at you..

Edited by G.R.F.
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Whilst we are on the subject on mainsheets what are the thoughts about
the 100 finalised design having a standard deck mounted turret / jammer
arrangement rather than the off-boom sheeting that was initially trialled ?

Personally I was hoping the off-boom sheeting would come to fruition as it
is such a sweet feature on the 49er, ergonomically perfect and enabling very
dynamic trim control (not a big fan of jammers and really struggle to release
the main in gusts regardless of what I do to ease them).

Thinking of maybe using the sheet leading from the boom sailing upwind
and just using the jammer on the downwind. Will the blocks allow this ?

Edited by ChrisC
Not now Kato (you fewl) !

RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)
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