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    Posted: 02 Mar 10 at 4:26pm
Originally posted by Nick Peters

So best guess is by end of 2010, there should be 120ish in the UK and 80ish in rest of World: Target would be to apply for International status by July 2011.



Holy S.......

120 boats in the UK in the first year, does that beat any other RS boat sales?

I am overjoyed for you lot, its a great thing for you guys especially in a year that others are struggling in. I do hope that the RS100 will continue to develope similar to the other RS classes especially the 200, 400 and 800.

Well done to RS and keep up the good work. Now can you offer us lot a decent 2010 sailing season, F3 every day with plenty of sun and a temperature above 15 C? If you can, I'll nab a 100 off you!
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We have the capacity to deliver 200 boats by the end of October - we have sold to date 152 - with 6 for AUS and 2 more for Denmark hopefully about to be added, so round it to 160ish, of which roughly 100 are sold to UK. That leaves 40 or so to sell, of which Charlie thinks the UK is good for another 20 or so this year: Mind you export could easily swallow up more than another 20...?

So best guess is by end of 2010, there should be 120ish in the UK and 80ish in rest of World: Target would be to apply for International status by July 2011.

Hope that gives a bit of a picture: Needless to say we are chuffed to bits with this early commitment and sales. But almost more exciting still, and what is so different about this boat is internationally - there is so much enthusiasm, and such potential.

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Hi James, Nick

yes, I agree it does all sound pretty sensible - good news. 

For me a key point was that at club level there would be 2 handicaps.  It just seems to make sense that the two different size rigs will perform differently.  I just didn't want to get 'lumbered' with a PY suited to the big rig if I was sailing a small rig.

Nick, roughly how many 100s will there be in the UK by the end of this year?

 

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Hi all,

Big rig aim was to get up to Phantom power overall, but our greater gunwhale width means you are hiking out a bit later for same weight helm. Small rig unfolded from that - ended up 1.8m smaller which equated to 15kgs lighter helm powered up at similar moment. We seem to have similar pace upwind in the light to a Phantom, but a well sailed 300 should be slightly quicker.

2 rig size rationale was based on evolving 2 fleets. I do not believe we should insist that certain weights sail one or other - but that will evolve to a great degree: My best guess is that 8.4m rig might be sailed by 65-95kg sailors depending on venue, confidence and skill, and 10.2m 80kg to 110kg, again depending on the variables. The big overlap is the reason why the Class rules should not restrict useage.

So how would it work in practice? club level - 2 handicaps recommended, take your choice  - opens - choose your rig prior to the event and stick with it: Likewise for a circuit series. From the first event I would guess we would all start together, and perhaps have both an overall and split results: As soon as the fleets are big enough, definitely 2 seperate starts, like Laser / Radial.

The uptake on RS100 internationaly is on a roll - so I would hope that all international events would go straight to 2 starts:

Event format is another interesting topic: standard RS events are 3 races a day for opens - 2 or 3 for big championships. I think 9er and MPS do 4 a day: We have all the options - also hearing Luca's thoughts, we could through in a long race or 2 at big events for double or +50% points for example?

Finally Class rules are being drafted at moment - in the ISAF format - and as soon as done we will put it out for owners views. They could be voted in officially towards the end of the year, when no doubt we will all know more.

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Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by SimonW99

James.. really, you should know
better........

I'm just packing up an new 6.6m development sail for you

(actually its a 6.5m feva main ).

NB still an advocate of the 'chose your weapon'
rule


cool beans... open the wind range right up! Any chance I
can nab a Feva kite too... oh yes, and a hacksaw for that
brand new carbon mast!

 

Forget the hacksaw, bring it back to the workshop and I'll get the angle grinder on it for you

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Post Options Post Options   Quote haroosh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 10 at 8:13pm

Originally posted by Phil J

Just to add my 2p's worth to the 'which rig' discussion,
I tried both sizes last November in winds ranging from F2
to F5, and being 6ft, 81Kgs 'bare weight!' I am definitely opting for the small rig.
This went away from my initial 'well it's got to be the
big rig hasn't it?' thought but it does seem in the RS100
case that the big rig is meant for bigger people (no
offence to anyone!).

All I need now is a boat!

Cheers,
Phil

Hey Phil,

Love the web site. Some of the London boat show pics are great.

Cheers,

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Just to add my 2p's worth to the 'which rig' discussion,
I tried both sizes last November in winds ranging from F2
to F5, and being 6ft, 81Kgs 'bare weight!' I am definitely opting for the small rig.
This went away from my initial 'well it's got to be the
big rig hasn't it?' thought but it does seem in the RS100
case that the big rig is meant for bigger people (no
offence to anyone!).

All I need now is a boat!

Cheers,
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Originally posted by turnturtle


Given the fact that this is your 'evening boat'


James - not quite as pretentious as it sounds. Summer evening sailing on
the river is just my best chance to get on the water and thus i want to make
the most of it. Spent the last 2 years basically 24/7 doing DIY (and going to
work !) with not much sailing.

Might try and sneak a day up at South Cerney once I pick up my boat - looks
similar sort of conditions to what we get on the River Teign - but you dont
get 6 hours on mud at low tide !
Not now Kato (you fewl) !

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Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 10 at 6:23pm
James.. really, you should know better........

I'm just packing up an new 6.6m development sail for you

(actually its a 6.5m feva main ).

NB still an advocate of the 'chose your weapon' rule
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Hi James,

Really appreciate that useful insight, which sort of confirms why I have
chosen the big rig - for the very same reasons as yourself !

Although I live on the coast I am primarily going to be sailing my 100 on
a tidal river estuary for summer evening club racing, which is most
usually exactly as you describe - patchy wind, fading evening breeze,
nip-and-tuck type sailing where generally I get mullered by Phantoms
and Solos.

For sailing on the sea at weekends (currently in a 49er and Vortex
Assymetric) I will either stick to the trapeze boats or get the smaller main.
Have not actually ever sailed a hiking boat yet, but it had dawned on me
that slogging upwind from Torquay to Brixham in a hiking boat probably
not going to be such an easy ride as in the Vortex or 49er !!!

Going to stick with the big rig but maybe get an 8.4 for more all-round.

Really what i am hoping for in the 100 is Phantom type light to medium
performance upwind and some fun (and no kneeling !!) downwind.

Edited by ChrisC
Not now Kato (you fewl) !

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