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    Posted: 15 Mar 10 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by Slippery Jim

Jimbo, you sound like
someone left alone in the sandpit and waiting for someone else to
come along and either dig a deeper hole or throw sand at you (I mean
play, naturally!!! )


Absolutely mate, and in fairness RS are doing their best to get the rest of
the kids out of the cat-sh1t ridden pit
that is unarig sailing before they go blind from the boredom too...

Look forward to that beer at some point... I still owe Grumpf one from
about 2 years ago, so the tinterweb beer
tally is still growing, it'll be one almighty session when it finally lands!!!


Originally posted by timg

Offwind soaking.....hmmm Jury maybe out on that one
TT...

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Tim- looks like the start of the first meaningful debate for us 1'ers...
finally!!!   

You and Nick certainly have more boat time than me, can't disagree on
that one and good to hear we're sharing
ideas!!!! But I'm not in agreement (yet) that in sub planing breeze,
heating up is the best way forward... simple
power to weight ratio would suggest you should plane quicker, but
similarly 10 years of combined sharing/good
practice and hard graft is very easy to 'borrow' from the MPS knowledge
base and it still points towards soaking as
the answer in 'crap conditions' (and they've got a much greater power to
weight ratio than either of the sitty-down
boats.)

Time will tell... and getting more than one of us on a race track!


Sub planing, marginal, call it what you like Jimbo. Fact is, below a certain
(true) wind speed all boats will perform better pulling up the plate and
going downwind "plat vor dem Laken" ("flat to the bedsheet") soaking to
the extreme. Boat characteristics vary, so for a Musto the time too do this
is not the same time as for many other non-skiff yots. Remember, you
can heat it up (nearly) anytime, but the Magic Word iz VMG.
Pass the skiff, man!
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ahhhhh now you mention sub planing!

yes that would work....
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Sorry guys no sailing this weekend, I was too busy gunning the pistes of
Morzine on Saturday and yesterday was spent in planes, minibuses and
automobiles, so not a chance to get over to the sailing club.

I have to say there is a remarkable similarity between linking some tight turns
on a steep red to nailing those sweet gybes on an RS100- a feeling of near
perfection achievable by mere mortals... they're both invigorating from the
adrenaline and uplifting from the sense of personal progression.   Of course
clocking over 30 knots on a snowboard was a nice box to tick, one I'm
somewhat dubious our ships will hit... we'll need to sell up and switch to
Albacores if we want that level of adrenaline-fuelled sailing

I didn't get down to the Dinghy Exhibition on the previous Saturday, I figured
sailing an RS100 was more fun than standing around one talking about it... not
meaning to rub it in fellas, but you'd have done the same. Here's some
feedback...

The breeze was light winds again, so had the 10.2 rig on. There were a couple
of Vagos out and we effectively had some good windward leeward sailing
between a couple of marks- not racing, but certainly sailing in company.   I
sailed freer upwind, absolutely stormed out both the Vagos (no surprise in
that respect, total apples and pears, but the difference in physical speed up
and down a small lake was massive.)

Tried pinching too to hit some marks as if I was racing and had a bad layline
but didn't want to tack. The boat doesn't like it, especially if slightly heeled to
leeward, it properly stalls out and feels weird. Note to Self: Those layline calls
are going to be important, best to stern clear a higher pointing boat and then
tack, rather than try some pathetic attempt at leebowing them.

Offwind- soaking is going to be quicker VMG in the light stuff, again no
surprise, I'm sure Rick & Sten would have probably said the same thing if I'd asked
the 'when to soak' question.    Although I have to admit blasting still good fun,
so 'sod it and smile' option like other asymmetric boats is still very much
available if you just fancy burning up a few calories. In the real light stuff (e.g.
fighting a collapsing kite) I lifted the plate and basically had a true course of
the rhum line... hmm, interesting....

Not a huge amount new to say over my first few sails. The kite's getting easier
to hoist, a mix of confidence, technique and McLube. The boat seems to be
less stop/start upwind, again more to do with me getting the feel back on
shifty winds. I'll reiterate that imo the kicker is still going to be the primary
control, offwind too. I'm having a different experience to Tim in his D-One in
that I'm keeping a bit more kicker on offwind than I would instinctively do...
seems to keep the power balance right between the two sails, the mainsail still
providing a good power source when properly trimmed.

Basically I spent a week away boarding and I loved every moment of it,
however I genuinely missed my RS100 sailing and I'm keen as hell to get back
to it this forthcoming weekend... got to be a good sign surely?

Jimbo, you sound like someone left alone in the sandpit and waiting for someone else to come along and either dig a deeper hole or throw sand at you (I mean play, naturally!!! )

P.S. I expected to see you draped over the front of the 100 on the RS stand (not in a bikini) grinning from ear to ear, while mere mortals slobbered over it and asked dum questions like"Wot's it like then?" and so on. Shame you weren't there. Beer's still available, just you'll have to come further to get it

Pass the skiff, man!
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Offwind soaking.....hmmm Jury maybe out on that one TT...

That's how I caught Nick up at the London show. Chatting at the Steve Nicholson we both agreed that soaking was a bit slow and that it pays to keep the heat on and get your angles right.

Funnily enough it was the first time I put a burgee on so I could see what I was doing downwind....I think it made the difference.

When I first started the D-One coming from the 400 I sailed it too deep downwind and found out really quickly that it was really slow.

I guess you can start testing the two ideas....it will be interesting to find out if the centreboard comes into play on the race course.

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Chris,

 "Really keen to get up to speed before I get mine in couple weeks."

Just out of interest, and to estimate when mine might be ready, what was your allocation number? thanks

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The board he will adjust all the way down in order to enhance it's principle (for him) use, as a righting mechanism.

The unique footing technique he has developed, rather like the equivalent 'teapot' stance of certain types is well illustrated in his
photosequence.


He'll be running training courses for us all on this unique technique.

You'll notice he's wearing a surf longboard leash, so when he falls out the back...

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James,

Did you sail this weekend ?

Discovered anything new ?

What is the norm on adjusting the board downwind. Keep it fully down or
rake it back ?

How much kicker are you using ?

Pointing or footing ?

Really keen to get up to speed before I get mine in couple weeks.

Cheers

Chris
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GOT An RS100 DATE - should be sailing by 24th April.

No! - early delivery slot is NOT for sale. ...... roll on Nationals and St.Tropez - Sept 2010.

Laser definitley for sale- see Y&Y Laser 192721

 

 

 
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The main problem with the Alto is that it has a centreboard rather than a daggerboard, a lifting rudder and an asymmetric...
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So I'm sure all you 100 enthusiasts will be first through the doors when the
Dinghy Show opens, and rushing to find it. The quickest way to it is to find
the AltO stand, then the queue will be just across the gangway.

Oh and while you are queuing you will notice that the AltO is almost half
the price of the 100, per person!
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