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    Posted: 10 Jan 12 at 9:11pm
yes, there is a lad at our club who has just moved into a europe from a topper, almost exactly the same size as you and he is having a real blast in it.  the other alternative is the byte or the byte c2.  If you want to try either boat come and see me at Hunts SC!
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I came out of a laser into a 600... admittedly i did a lot of trapezing before hand, i was 55kg, i didn't struggle massively, in fact i port tacked the hole fleet in Carnac a few years ago:D  but was a hand full, good fun in light airs apart from that your not up to pace wouldn't recommend it for someone your weight though. I have also sailed 29er with a helm about 50kg(it wont take you long to get there) works fine if you have a crew around my weight (65kg). Heavy crews are easy to find now as the helms realize they are to heavy to helm but don't want to leave the class.

420 would be the way forward for you i think.

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The Farr 3.7 does look like so much fun. Shame dads a too busy - I would not trust my boat building skills (or lack of them) to get me home! Also I think I'm a bit on the small side :(  
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The Splash was designed for people in exactly your position (well apart from being Dutch, of course) and is HUGE in Holland. Not exciting like a 600 is, but with a far greater turn of speed than a Topper, and designed to fit a small person's build, unlike a Laser hull.
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At 45kg I no you would like a change to something exiting but would it be worth a feva as in wind it is fast, it isent 29er fun but honestly with a crew under 60 kg you are two small, same with the 420, and radial, 4.7 you could get away with but in stronger wind may struggle. You should keep the topper and develop on your skills. I sail a topper at 65kg and am just thinking about leaving it now, I sail a radail and 4.7 part time. The feva is fast and manageable. If you want a fun boat there is a hobie 405, very cheep but I dont now how it sails, it has an asymmetric and trapeze.     
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Originally posted by skylark12

The Farr 3.7 does look like so much fun. Shame dads a too busy - I would not trust my boat building skills (or lack of them) to get me home! Also I think I'm a bit on the small side :(  


You really aren't to small. But I can accept all your other points!:)

But do have a look at a Splash, they are great.
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for the farr they say 50kg at a minimum and tbh it is probably better to be a bit heavier than that if you aren't as tall, especially on the sea, not by much but in all of the clips (that I have seen) the people are probably heavier than 55 kg,    there is nothing worse than trying to sail a boat that you arent heavy enough for, it just isn't fast. I mean you are not miles out but the optimum weight will be put lower to attract people to the class. I tried sailing a radial at 55kg in a reasonable breeze and i did OK but just felt that I needed a bit more weight, I was not fast at all up wind, with 10kg more it feels a lot better, not just in heavy wind but I can roll tack better two. Dont rush into any boat just cos people on a forum say it is good. Try b4 u by.     (no offence people on the forum)
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Doeywizard... I'm the guy that has imported the Farr. And also suggesting a 5kg reduction for helm weight from the NZ suggestion. Their suggested weight range is higher due to the average wind strenght being higher.

The boat is a one design hull, but there is quite a bit of leeway with what you do with the rig. Meaning you can tune it to your weight, up to a point.

So far the lightest person to sail the boat has been 68 kg and when sailed it it was in the mid 20 knt range, with gusts up to 31knts. Not the normal conditions that most people would consider sailing in. He wasn't over powered, and there was plenty of scope for more depowering.

At 45kg you aren't going to be having the easiest time in the world in force 5, but for the majority of Uk conditions you are going to be having a ball of a time. And at 15 he's going to stick on a few more inches and kg by the time he'd built the thing anyway! :)



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ahh ok I dident know that, I just assumed that it was like people with the laser where even if they are a midget people just say "have u tried a laser"       Thanks for correcting me and btw I do think they look cracking boats and do not know much about them, just that on you tube all of the sailors looked bigger than a radial sailor.    I also know that he will grow, but there is no point going into a boat if he was two light atm,   after what you said tho it does seem that it is very manageable for most people,      If I had the money I would consider one 
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How about a lowrider Int Moth, if you fancy a challenge? 
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