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    Posted: 30 Apr 09 at 7:20pm
I must apologise tony as I'm unaware of your environmental principles? My
memory is notoriously bad?
What could be wrong with that wetsuit apart from the outrageous pricetag?
If anyone else is interested in this heated wetsuit here's the link - http://www.ripcurl.eu/index.php?hbomb
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A quick dip over the side between Nationals races when out at sea fine, but it does need to be wet. Rots the stitching, mind!

As for wind chill, why not just wear a spray top? And hightop trousers if colder weather? Not cool, OK, but simple and it works.

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my dad mastered the art of taking out the dagger board in our mirror on a run, taking a waz down the slot and then putting the board back in in time for the leeward mark. i reckon we were at our fastest in those moments!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote G.R.F. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Apr 09 at 5:03pm
And to think they used to ban US from reservoirs..

And then make us wear death bags when they eventually let us on..
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Ah you see, only when its windy enough to get wet - if you are dry, def strip and pee! There are limits! Sitting in one's own pee all day, without any rinsing from the water, gross....

Jumping in the water to pee on a light weather day is rubbish because then you are wet, heavy and uncomfortable, when you could've avoided it!

That said, the trade off between that and humiliation is a toughie!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Apr 09 at 4:48pm

Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by kanga

Peeing in wetsuits...
 

Mind you guys don't get nappy rash! Actually, i believe that on a hot day peeing in your otherwise dry wetsuit can bring about serious itching (believe it or not, I've not done it myself, just heard). Jumping overboard or capsizing is the answer, I think.

But come on, what can I put on my outer nylon lining?

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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

I usually try to wear the minimum number of items of clothing just to minimise the hassle of rinsing salt out of each, lugging the lot home and drying it out

Damn Right. Somehow it's ended up as my job to rinse mine and the crews (wife) kit. Sometimes a drysuit just looks so appealing.

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Simon, your reply crossed with my previous.

Thanks for contributing a professional view. I think you've summed up the problem very well. As for layering and using a combination of garments, I usually try to wear the minimum number of items of clothing just to minimise the hassle of rinsing salt out of each, lugging the lot home and drying it out, but then I am very idle. So a water-repellent 3mm on its own (or maybe with a dry top) is what i need this summer!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Apr 09 at 4:09pm

Doug,  you know that goes against my environmental principles!

But frankly, I'm amazed you guys haven't come up with some crazy but workable suggestions for making the nylon water-repellent. So far goose fat is the best, and it would probably even work, but would make a mess inside my kit bag and likely everywhere else... Needs to be something that dries but remains v. flexible or doesn't dry like fat but is clean and won't transfer to ropes, hands etc

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Very interesting stuff re heat loss through wetsuits. At Neil Pryde we've been facing the problem for years as Windsurfers probably face the worse possible combination of water, high wind and cold. The answer is of course mesh as opposed to nylon. However mesh can be more susceptible to nicks so it needs to be protected by an outer garment. Another possible solution would be to wear thicker and thicker double lined suits. The problem then is that a, you can't actually move in them and b, what happens when conditions ease, or warm and you're still stuck in your Michelin suit. Bulk is a real problem particularly in sailing and its something which the industry has been really slow in addressing, paticularly when compared to the outdoor or snow sports industry. Maintaining warmth, or indeed not over heating whilst keeping fexiblity to the max is all about reducing bulk through layering. The best way to stay warm and flexible is to use a combination of garments, designed to be worn as a system that mean that whatever the conditions you can select the right combination. Several sailing companies ae now providing this type of product and what began as a concept only top competitors used is now spreading through all levels of sailing. worth checking out. 
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