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    Posted: 20 Jan 09 at 2:09pm
Originally posted by Graeme

Some advice/opinions in this forum are a little myopic ...... try your local club or clubs. You should find most folk are very willing to help you get into the sport - plus you'll have the opportunity to try out the many excellent dinghy and cat classes we have in the UK.

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Going back to the initial problem if you regularly stretch and strengthen your neck you should have no problem continuing to windsurf. For the record I only started to Windsurfing after I had two fusions and (touch wood) I have had absolutely no problems to date.
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Jon is correct about stretching and strengthening the neck, I don’t think hanging off a trapeze would be much of a problem, but in overpowered windsurf conditions it does put huge additional strain on the neck, its very physical on the arms/shoulders. Worse, I find is lifting a huge wet rig out of the water when I land(bad for the back as well). The other big risk factor here is the liberal splattering of semi submersed carrier bags and large blocks or planks of wood. Hitting one of these with the fin when at 30k is rather hard on the neck, mast, sail and board, just not sure in what order.

I think the combination of a catapult a month ago and being caught out sailing way overpowered all contributed to the recent flare up or bad feeling I am getting again in my neck.

 

I tend to be a sailor who is very competitive and pushes the speed limits every time I sail.

 

The clubs here on the south side of the island have huge fleets of optimists and lasers(not my thing), with a few larger hulls, the NE of the island has a cat club, as well as lasers etc, but very few planing hulls on the island.

 

I think i can manage a fairly steep learning curve as I get lots of light wind conditions to practice in. Currents are strong though.

 

Is there so much difference between hiking out on a trapeze than hanging out on harness lines on say a technical raceboard controlling the lift and rail from a dagger board?

 

Thanks for all the comments and I will surf through the net to find more info on the craft you have all suggested.

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Even in overpowered conditions you should not be putting strain on your neck, as a very beginner windsurfer I always felt overpowered! You need to strengthen your upper back muscles and core so load does not go through your neck or cause you to bend your lower back (which will cause your neck to go into bad posture).

I am sure you will get a fairly steep learning curve in sailing. Having gone the other way (from hking and trapezing to harness lines) in a couple of weeks (although I obviously still have a long way to go I definitely feel I am now a windsurfer...)
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A while back there was a query on the contender forum from a guy at Changi Sailing Club.  I don't know if he managed to get hold of a boat, but it might be worth looking into.  That way you'd get a speed hit in a manageable fashion....and our Worlds are in Brisbane this time next year.
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If you want something faster than a normal laser you can always try the EPS (i'm totally and outright byassed) it's faster has a better hiking position with the wings on and with bareley any depreciation it's a great boat for a year or two until you can sail a 600 or 700 with the addition of a trapeze and possibly asymetric.

If not shadows are fast and relitivley easy to sail once you get the hang of tacking and gybing.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote radixon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 09 at 8:27pm
Originally posted by Gladys

If you want something faster than a normal laser you can always try the EPS (i'm totally and outright byassed)



An EPS is no longer made, can't buy parts easily, come on, recommend a class that you can sell on afterwards.

The better option for similar boat to an EPS is a Blaze or RS300
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 09 at 8:37pm
Originally posted by Jon Emmett

Going back to the initial problem if you regularly stretch and strengthen your neck you should have no problem continuing to windsurf. For the record I only started to Windsurfing after I had two fusions and (touch wood) I have had absolutely no problems to date.


I had a lot of neck trouble thanks to recurrent shoulder dislocations and acts of sheer stupidity when younger.  What I have found really helps is yogalates - a combination of pilates and yoga.  Fantastic stretching and strengthening of the neck, spine and core muscles, as well as all the rest of you.
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Yep yep I do lots of pilates although my disc problems were caused by bouncing up and down in a RIB for a decade!
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