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    Posted: 06 Nov 08 at 9:52pm
did I say "3000 & Vago take on the Vario"....did u see that photo!.. I thnk I have jus been turned to the dark side.  Vago & vario just got slapped in the face

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amazingly the windmeter at the club was reading 32 knots that day, it was amazing sailing it really was, the waves were perfect for jumping and surfing on.
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Not only vertical and unbent; they even have the outhaul off.  Very powered up indeed! 

Sadly I can't do that single handed.
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Originally posted by hollandsd


i am yet to see a photo of an Rs500 doing this, for an easyish boat to sail you get a lot of bang for your buck.

the 500 will also do this in the right conditions. i have been wave hopping in a 500 and its great fun because its so easy to sail and forgiving. not sailed the 3000 or 3V so cant compare though.

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looking ath that photo of us, is it me or is the mast extremely straight and upright?

We should really de'power when it gets that windy.
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Originally posted by NickA


You could consider a cat, maybe?  The Dart 15 and 18 though old and ugly take one or two with ease.  Best ask on the cat pages as they'll know more than me.

Personally, I just prefer sailing monohulls.  Cats feel like cheating .

Ugly?  Thats a bit harsh

The Dart 18 has very active fleets in Belgium and France, so if you ever get racing or want to learn more about them then there are plenty of people around. 

Personally, i love sailing the D18 singlehanded.  Its very fast, forgiving and a great challenge.  Nice a stable too for taking the kids out on.  My only complian is that its big - great for singlehanded and on the wire, but not so good around the dingy park and when launching/recovering by yourself.

I agree with otehr comments - treat the family to a Neilson or similar holiday and try out different mono's or cats.  See what suits and what the family gel with.  You never know it may even be a cat !
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I'd go for a carbon rig on my 3k right away - not becasue I'd expect it to give more speed - it wouldn't - but more for even easier handling and because it would somehow be more in keeping with the superlight hull.

But you're absolutely right, Villan, the reason we don't is that it would up the cost of a new boat by about 20%, and it certainly wouldn't make it 20% better by any means
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it really doesent need it, its fast enough on its own as is. If you want a go, give me a pm and we shall see if we can organise it for you.
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Ross, I think the only reply to that is ...

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The V3000 looks awesome. I want a go. It'll have to be a force 6 mind. They should have given it a carbon rig with the overhaul.
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