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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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You might also consider a Cadet, Alikat. I was looking at possibilities for my godson and his brothers - we wanted a boat which would keep two crew-members busy rather than in effect a singlehander with room for two. I was struck by how much sail area a Feva has - we've found in our club training that it needs a fair bit of crew-weight in a wind. The Cadet seems to have smaller sails than other viable two-man (child) boats, yet genuinely has role for two persons. Usefully lighter for them to manhandle ashore, too. GRP versions are pretty robust-looking, but cheap ones are also rare. |
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alikat1 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
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Considering buying either a Qb'a or a Feva for my 2 daughters (aged 13 and 11, both weighing around 40 -45kg) and new to sailing. Was looking for a boat which they could manage , enjoy and deal relatively easily with a capsize. Having looked at the specs of both boats ,comparing the 'basic' models there doesnt seem to be much in it. The Feva offers more scope for progression . The QBa sounds a slightly simpler version. Does anyone have any views on pro's and con's of the 2 boats. What reasons would you have for opting for the Qba rather than the Feva? Views welcomed
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Captain Morgan ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 211 |
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skslr, In answer to your questions:- Car topping vs. trailering: I'm not a fan of car topping. I/we have lifted Lasers onto racks/car roof racks and that's difficult enough! There is always the danger that the hull or car will be damaged - and let's face it, lifting a hull to the required height is hard enough with 2-3 people. ALL of the parts of the Q'BA will fit beneath the cover, though it would be a good idea to secure them. (The mast is in two parts that is easily dismantled, and can be stored under the cover with the halyard still connected.) The big sail (in it's bag) will lie comfortably under the cover. Trailering would be my preferred option. Strong winds of Force 5-6 are exceptional fun! The Q'BA really shifts even when using the small sail in a Force 5, though it isn't as competitive as a two-person dinghy. Force 5-6+, and the small sail becomes competitive, simply as other dinghies are depowering/spilling wind and/or capsizing! The Q'BA points really high when the sail is pulled tight, and offwind in these conditions it really is immense fun. The pressure is much more controllable than in other boats, and it is a case of going along for the ride - Lots of fun, speed, spray etc. but for a lot less effort Rotomoulding vs GRP... Difficult issue here. You'll find so many threads against "plastic" boats in these forums, but there are also lots of us who do actually like rotomoulded dinghies. All I can say is that it depends on the design, and also whether you actually like the boat, if you can get over the plastic stigma Personally, the Q'BA doesn't suffer from being plastic. It is short, so flexing is less of a problem. Even if it was rigid GRP, it wouldn't be appreciably faster because of the design and waterline length. The sides are nicely rounded so that hiking is very comfortable, which is a great advantage, and there are no awkwardly placed stiffening ribs in these areas which might lead to discomfort. Hope this helps. |
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skslr ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 06 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 139 |
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Captain Morgan,
thank you for your answers so far! It certainly helps there is someone out there who is actually sailing this thing ![]() What do you think about car-topping vs. trailer? Can you confirm that all parts of the boat when ready for sailing fit into the hull during transport? Does it work if you only roll the big sail? Do you have any experiences in winds like Force 5? (At least I guess my weight will be less of in issue then...) If we leave the financial aspect aside, what do you think about roto moulding vs. GRP in regard to this specific boat? |
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Captain Morgan ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 211 |
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Getting back on track... The drain in the cockpit floor does remove water from the cockpit very well. In really light winds (<8knots) I keep the bung in otherwise my weighty 78kg forces water up into the cockpit through the drain. Over about 8 knots of wind, I leave the bung out and the cockpit is totally self-bailing.
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feva sailor ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 186 |
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thanks for the 29er heads up |
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Villan ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Nov 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1768 |
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Yes, But that doesnt mean you must mention it in every post. You'll give yourself a bad reputation at that rate! (*cough* cherub/i14 *cough* ) |
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feva sailor ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 186 |
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yes the 29er is very recent.
when joining the forum i had no intention of sailing it. |
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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There's a bung in the cockpit. I think there is enough underfloor buoyancy for it to drain through it with someone suitably light onboard. Filing that it'll do the self bailer thing...
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skslr ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 06 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 139 |
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How does the Q'ba get rid of water in the cockpit?
This http://www.sail-world.com/europe/index.cfm?SEID=0&Nid= 38454&SRCID=0&ntid=29&tickeruid=0&tickerCID= 0 looks like there is no open transom and middle part of the cockpit floor being very low... Edited by skslr |
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