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tack'ho
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Topic: Would you have protested?Posted: 21 Aug 08 at 12:39am |
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I say rubbish. The rules are there to ensure fair competition. ie the measurement rules exist to ensure everyone has kit conforming to the ideal of the class, in the case of the 49er one design. The fact you can in this case use the same rule to force out some who was competing in a measured boat with no advantage gained doesn't mean you should. in other words the spirit if not the minutae of the rule was adhered to. the racing rules of sailing apply to everyone equally, had Robert, Zach or the swedish fella been a better sailor than them, then Ben or Paul would not have been able to do that to them!! oh and if you think sportsmanship has nothing to do with sport then i think your missing the point entirely!! Edited by tack'ho |
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I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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Jimbob
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Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 11:12pm |
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In sailboat racing the Rules are part of the game. Therefore if you can win in the protest room you go there. Sportmanship has got nothing to do with it.
Ainslie (twice) and Goodison used the Rules to win their gold medals. Some people might consider that what they did was unsportsmanlike. What do you say to that. |
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MikeBz
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Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 3:53pm |
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I don't blame the Spaniards for protesting, they've trained for xxx years for the Olympics and it was a bizarre and potentially grey situation. When the Spaniards and Italians "jointly" appealed the Italians were represented by "Mr. Jordi Lamarca of Spain" - now I may be wrong but that smells, well, kind of smelly. Having lost the protest I'd accept it. The Spaniards have now been sporting and done so. The Italians (see edit below) sadly are unable to do that. It's very sad for sailing and sport in general. Edited slightly later: From what I've read elsewhere the Italian sailors aren't happy about what's going on, it's the Italian Olympic Committee that has decided to take this to the Court of Arbitration not the Italian sailing team. Maybe that's why they didn't want to represent themselves at the appeal... Mike Edited by MikeBz |
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kanga
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Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 3:29pm |
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my sentiments exactly...
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theycallmegod
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Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 2:54pm |
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I probably wouldnt have...
Winning the gold in a courtroom would've felt hollow.... |
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Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 2:03pm |
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If I genuinely thought I was racing a Croatian boat and altered my tactics accordingly then yes. If it made no difference, then no.
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Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 1:56pm |
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yeah i do see your point oz man, but i think it was sucha huge disadvantage for the danish anyway, that they were destined to win it.
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oz man
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Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 1:48pm |
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what i mean by not wanting to win it that way is id rather go out and win every race and win the medal but if that didnt happen and i needed to take it to protest to win i would. it wouldnt mean i wanted to deny anyone else a medal for the sake of it. as ben showed in his abandoned medal race you have to be a ruthless b**tard at times no ones going to give you an inch and you cant afford to give anyone else an inch otherwise you will lose thats the difference between a club sailor and an olympic gold medalist.
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Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 1:39pm |
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if you didn't want to win, then sure;y you are just denting someone's glory!
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Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 1:35pm |
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i wouldnt want to win it that way either but i would still protest
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