Tricky...proper course question.

   Sounds to me like Ian is right.  If you decide to discuss this with him again later, simply ask him why he was so far below his proper course prior to overlapping you to leeward, make it sound like your agreeing with him about you being wrong.   Sounds like he's the kind of chap who might juts smugly explain how he'd out thought you then hit him with the rule 22.2 whammy.
Arhhh I'm wasted I should have been a lawyer in a Perry Mason style show 

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tack'ho Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1100	Post Options Post Reply Quote tack'ho Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Tricky...proper course question. Posted: 25 Jun 08 at 12:32pm
	Sounds to me like Ian is right. If you decide to discuss this with him again later, simply ask him why he was so far below his proper course prior to overlapping you to leeward, make it sound like your agreeing with him about you being wrong. Sounds like he's the kind of chap who might juts smugly explain how he'd out thought you then hit him with the rule 22.2 whammy. Arhhh I'm wasted I should have been a lawyer in a Perry Mason style show
	I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jun 08 at 1:13pm
	I still can't see any evidence the guy wasn't sailing a proper course when the overlap existed. If he'd capsized, for instance, he might have headed off on a bit of a reach while he sorted himself out... Rule 22 is a hard onme to prove. And to be quite honest I can't see what his motive is supposed to be - its a pursuit race, he's in a faster boat, and he's ahead. Its game over unless the "slower" boat is something that has really dramatic performance on one leg or another, for instance the way a Canoe can take just about anything if the last leg is a beat, or a Cherub if its a real balls out reach.

winging it Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958	Post Options Post Reply Quote winging it Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jun 08 at 1:15pm
	He may well have been sailing his 'proper course' but as I said originally, he can't just alter course when the overlap exists and try to shove me out of the way...
	the same, but different...

Ross Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 02 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1163	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ross Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jun 08 at 5:28pm
	I thought you could call water on any obstruction, regardless of your position in a race.
	Ross If you can't carry it, don't sail it!