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    Posted: 17 Oct 06 at 3:33pm

Says 60psi on the tyre. That seems a bit high to me!!

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If it says 60PSI then go for it. The rolling resistance will be much less and the tyre won't get so hot (less hysteresis in the rubber). It's the flexing of the rubber that eventually kills the tyre so keeping it as rigid as poss would be my best bet.

I don't remember what the limit on the schroeder valves is though.

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Originally posted by English Dave

I don't remember what the limit on the Schroeder valves is though.

If you look at a tyre on something like a racing bike (which has a Schroeder valve btw), they are pumped up to a minimum of 120psi, so I don't think the Schroeder valve is the deciding factor.

Good call on Hysteresis heating as this combined with friction (due to rolling surface area) are the primary causes of wear and tear on a tyre.  An under inflated tyre is arguably more of a danger that over inflation

 

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and... make sure you can undo the wheel nuts.  You will need some device to stop the wheel turning as you try and undo the rusted up wheel nuts.  Remember, you don't have the wight of a car stopping the wheel turning.   Unless you are towing a quater tonner.

 

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Originally posted by Guest#260

Says 60psi on the tyre. That seems a bit high to me!!


I have known tyres to be stamped only with maximum safe pressure rather than recommended.
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Guest#260

Says 60psi on the tyre. That seems a bit high to me!!


I have known tyres to be stamped only with maximum safe pressure rather than recommended.

I'll second that, it's usually a do-no-exceed-this figure not a recommended figure. Recommended figure depends on the application.

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Originally posted by English Dave

 It's the flexing of the rubber that eventually kills the tyre

I'd be a lot more worried about killing your hull. Trailing is bad for hulls but softer tyres are better because the boat is bounced around less. I really wouldn't pump dinghy trailer tyres to the max. 25psi should be plenty. Keelboat trailer tyres are different and need high pressure, due to the weight of the boat.

Regarding changing tyres, I think it is pretty difficult to DIY without the tools that tyre shops use to peel the tyre on and off the wheel. A good type shop will change a trailer tyre for you - I've had to get it done due to a puncture.

 

 

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I'd second the comments about being wary of over-inflation. Many tyres have a MAX Pressure figure on them. That doesn't mean that's the pressure you should use. With loads as light as dinghies 25-35psi is the range we should all be working in.

If you over pressurise your tyres (for the load you're carrying) you'll

  • transfer more jolts and bumps to the dinghy
  • reduce the contact area of the tyre with the road (you know what that means...)
  • make the trailer much, much more skittish and difficult to tow
  • oh, and when you DO have a blow-out (which you will) it'll be a biggy....

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At 25psi with those small tyres, I'd have thought there's a fairly high risk you'll hit a bump and stretch the bead away from the rim enough to lose all the air in the tyre.

I'm sure that somewhere there must be a list of tyre pressures for axle loads for tyres, but I think 6 ply tyres go up to 75psi at maximum axle load of about 500kg.

Remember as well that those small wheels are only rated up to 60mph - anything above this they start to get seriously warm! Not that anyone ever exceeds the speed limit with a trailer of course

If you can, fit ten inch wheels with radial tyres - these allow a maximum speed of 150kph

Having experienced a "blowout" on a boat trailer on the motorway a few months back (not my trailer) I can say with reasonable authority that it is a complete non event in comparison to one on a car due to the trailer being so light. My passenger (the owner of the boat and trailer!) didn't even realise there was anything major wrong - he thought the banging was the trailer strap come loose. On getting out though, having coasted down from about 50 to 0mph, there wasn't much left of the mudguard, interesting skid marks on the side of the boat, and no sign of any tyre left (spread over about 1/4 of a mile of M4), just a completely destroyed wheel rim.

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Once towed at over 90 mph towing a Vortex south from Liverpool. Apologies to anyone on the M6 that I may have passed.

With the "lift" effect of the hull shape I don't think the tyres were entirely relevant at that speed.

(Speeding is wrong, it endangers lives and is illegal. However, the ferry had docked 2 hours late and I was due to meet the guy who was going to buy the Vortex.) 

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