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    Posted: 25 Aug 06 at 9:22am

For those of you who's experience of dinghy sailing is limited to a short adrenelin rush on a fragile and unstable floating platform closely watched by an ever vigilant rescue crew...and to restore some balance to the debate.

The canvas spray dodger provides sufficient shelter for picnics because when a boat is in a fixed position held by a removable autonomous boat parking device (aka an anchor) rather than by the standard skiff sailor's procedure of inversing the vessel and planting the mast in the mud...then the boat will ride head to wind.

Whilst not my first choice for this type of sailing the Topper Cruz is a perfectly adequate pottering/cruising boat which will do things that most SMOD will ot -like transporting the family from Port A to Creek B and back without needing to be accompanied by a fleet of noisy motorboats or having to call out the rescue helicopter. This way you don't frighten the wildlife, or leave a trail of oil and exhaust fumes...

Dinghy sailing is a very diverse activity...let's celebrate that diversity rather than sl*gging each other off.

 

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Originally posted by turnturtle

You can't argue with economics either.... look at the price in the ad- 2 1/2 grand for a nine year old boat... not many decade-old 14s fetch that kinda dosh do they?

Oh dear, dev class vs SMOD argument. Here we go again

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maybe the price has more to do with the fact that heavier, somewhat over engieered, boats (such as the Wayfarer) tend  to suffer less the effects of old age.

 

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Originally posted by turnturtle

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You can't argue with economics either.... look at the price in the ad- 2 1/2 grand for a nine year old boat... not many decade-old 14s fetch that kinda dosh do they?

Oh dear, dev class vs SMOD argument. Here we go again

erm no... performance boat vs cruising dinghy actually- remove Int 14 and replace with Laser 4k... only problem is are any Laser 4k's 10 years old yet?  How much do they sell for at the oldest end of the 2nd hand boat market- a grand perhaps?

A better example. A 1996 I14 would be obsolete hence why can be picked up for £1000.

No one will race a cruz, so it's value is not affected by how competitive it is against newer boats in it's class. Also consider that just because it's priced at that doesn't mean anyone will buy it!

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Actually the Laser 4000 drops quite fast and then holds its price very well - probably because the hull is very strong.  So you don't get many below £2500.

 

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