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skslr 
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 Topic: Detuning a Penultimate International 14?Posted: 18 Mar 21 at 10:06pm |
The kite for the one in question now still says K1223. My wife had the former K1220 more than 15 years ago. Back then there were considerable differences between the masts... |
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davidyacht
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Posted: 19 Mar 21 at 9:00am |
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Ah, mine were 1208 and 1242. Think the numbers were drilled into the centre transom bar support moulding. There were quite a few attempts at finding masts that stayed up back then, particularly during the transition to assymetric kites
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Happily living in the past
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skslr
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Posted: 22 Mar 21 at 3:25pm |
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Bad news
(or maybe it saved me from doing something stupid?): The offer for the penultimate international 14 was just too good and someone else was faster. I followed the advice to look for a 29er Rigg with sails and actually found a cheap rigg with a hull under it, with just the kite missing. Now a 29er would
barely float at the upper end at the intended crew weight range, so that’s no
option here. So unless another cheap international pops up I need to look at alternatives. Does anyone have proposals for cheap double floored hulls that weigh in at < 100 kgs and can support 180 kg combined crews without dragging the transom through the water / forcing the crew to move in front of the shrouds or even the mast? |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 22 Mar 21 at 4:42pm |
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You probably need a shortlist of classes that are available within a couple of hours drive of you, if you were in the UK I'd say Buzz, L2000 (a little on the heavy side admittedly and would probably stretch the budget), ISO, Laser 2 and L3k are probably a bit on the small size for 180kg...
There used to be a dinghy database on the Noble website but it disappeared in the last revamp. I did save a copy as an Excel spreadsheet if it might be of help identifying suitable candidates. https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4nk3jngwiye9ha/Dinghy%20Database.xls?dl=0
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Old bloke
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Posted: 22 Mar 21 at 4:46pm |
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Not double floored, but a 505 ticks all your other boxes
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 22 Mar 21 at 5:24pm |
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Except 'single handing' with a child crew...
Great boats though
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Rupert
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Posted: 22 Mar 21 at 5:29pm |
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Topper Boss with a cut down rig.
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Rupert
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Posted: 22 Mar 21 at 5:32pm |
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ISO probably makes more "sense", though, as much as any of this does!
Genuine sense would suggest a Sport 14 or similar, but not very exciting compared to a 14. Sense is overrated... |
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Old bloke
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Posted: 23 Mar 21 at 8:55am |
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A 505 is a much better prospect for light weather singlehandedly +/- a small child than a 14 or Boss. I, and many others, have done exactly that, including flying the kite and trapezing, without much problem.
We're not talking force 5 at Mount's Bay. |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 23 Mar 21 at 10:20am |
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True but the OP is not (unless I'm missing something) considering a Boss, L5k or a 14 with the standard rig but something considerably de-tuned in comparison hence the suggestions for Buzz or L2/3k
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