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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Probably the same reason I'll have problems with the Blaze, which will be the PY I'll get with a kite. They are only condoning my use of 1063 rather than 1037 because of the Great Lakes thing, a kite gives you barely 15% boost but you'll lose more, then there's the extra weight and cutting the hull about, whatever you might say you can build them down to, the fact is there is no-one capable of doing that or willing to. So adding a kite will only add weight and decrease the yardstick, hence I didn't bother, that doesn't mean I won't, but that's why I haven't until now. The other benefit you get from the Blaze, if it could be built to a half decent weight, is the retracting centre board which was also one of the attractions with the Contender. |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Why not see if Hartley's would sell you a bare Blaze hull without correctors and racks, make some custom carbon racks (or even do without racks) and go from there?
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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Farr 3.7, foiling rudder to trick the water line length and then a self tacking jib (and won’t require much mods, but rig efficiency should be way better.
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Musto Skiff and Solo sailor
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Are you trying to win on the water, or cheat the yardstick system? Message seems confused. If producing a one off boat, then yardstick is meaningless, so just worry about speed. If yardstick is important, then you need to stick within class rules, as otherwise the game has no clear winner, as potential speeds are just a guess.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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With which boat? With the Farr, just trying to sail it to that 1063 handicap.
The Blaze, initially I thought I might just engage in a bit of Banditry in light weather, just for the craic given it's now 1033, but then I thought, oh, what if and thus this thread. I realise then I wouldn't get away with the PY and it would then be just the fun of racing a trapeze boat and trying to get better at sailing off the wire in a more competitive boat within the fleet and not just dropping further and further behind because we're (the boat and me) too slow. Even with a crack helm you'll never get a Farr close to a Contender over the water, I've only ever done it once or twice and in very light tactical tidal conditions they don't happen that often. But I wonder how close a Blaze with a wire might get in mid winds, might be fun trying to find out. |
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789 |
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iGRF I am sure people have suggested it before but what not just by a Laser and enjoy some class racing.
There was a boat in the 1980s with an unstayed mast and a trapeze. Had something plus in the name. Plenty of old lasers about, old ten meter windsurfing rig and stay it like Herrreshoff/UFO
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Tink
https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com |
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zeon ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 316 |
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Stop trying to apply logic and giving proper advice. This is a GRF thread , these things have no place in it .
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Because I quite like using a trapeze, reminds me of windsurfing, not quite as controllable and a bit edgy offwind, but it's something new, and I like to keep learning new stuff. |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Adapt a Laser 2 mast and fit it to a Laser 1, already got trapeze.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Might as well just buy a L3k
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
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