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    Posted: 06 May 18 at 9:22pm
Don't get me wrong Rupert, I'm not advocating pumping. But it happens legally in some classes, and seems de facto allowed in others. Therefore someone must have researched the science of how to do it well, measuring the performance deltas of different techniques.
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I'd have though the optimum would have just as much to do with individual sailors as maths, playing to their strengths in terms of fitness and endurance compared to ability.

Not really sailing as we have known it, but if people want to make pumping legal because "everyone does it in competitive fleets anyway", then the views of one old codger, who was actually damn good at cheating in light winds if needed "because..." then maybe I should take up a different aspect of the sport.
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It happenes, allowed or not, in all competitive fleets. Regardless of the right or wrongs, I'm interested in understanding the theory of how to do it well.

Graeme, Windsurf pumping is more like a bird flapping it's wings than rowing isn't it?

As I said earlier, I think the optimal frequency is related to a Strouhal number of around 0.2, but I'd be amazed if the RYA haven't funded research into it.
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It’s the age old chess on the water vs physical athleticism argument... truth is, at Olympic level, I reckon it’s pretty much both and too assume it’s no longer just as ‘tactical’ is at best naive, or worse; damn arrogant.
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Windsurfers threw in the towel and allowed pumping, but sailing should back away from what the Olympic boys are allowed in the Finn before it is too late. I can see a time when it is permitted in any conditions, and light wind sailing skills are lost completely. As it is, all the squaddies I've raced against over the years have been pretty poor when thinking becomes more important than robot learned skills.
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Peaky,
Should have added in light winds.
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It was pretty interesting getting a lesson in sailboard pumping from Graeme at Hayling a couple of years ago- it made a massive difference once technique was dialled in, it’s a whole-body exercise- not just in the arms



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Originally posted by Peaky

Thanks for that. That's a good point about combining with rocking - that forces the pumping frequency to coincide with the roll period. But on windsurfers do you just pump as fast as possible or is there a rate that feels fastest? And could you improve speeds by a fraction of a knot if there was proper research into it?


No, that's a common mistake just flapping as fast as you can, I'd say it's exactly like rowing technique if there's been any research into that it would be worth looking at. Calling it air rowing is pretty accurate, but obviously there are different techniques according to different points of sailing, in much the same way as there are in dinghies. It's obviously banned in dinghies so I've never seen anyone other than ainslie on film and I don't think his techniques is particularly special tbh. Pumping is a very defined art, it requires good timing, it also has to be in tune with any shifts or you lose out, it can also be very effective practised subtley in low wind conditions. It is obviously very reliant on the created wind refilling the sail since the actual 'pump' is replacing the true wind.

Off the start line you live or die from your pumping ability and stamina, it's one place where pumping speed and pumps per second do count if you don't then you die in a maelstrom of disturbed air from everyone else flapping , but that rapid rate just cannot be maintained so once your either up to optimum speed and have generated enough apparent wind to hook in and lock down, or if it's too light you settle down to a rhythm of about 1 pump per second to keep momentum. It's very arduous, light wind races on windsurfing boards are so much more tiring than sailing in a gale of wind.
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That's a bit of a stretch - would mean sailing a Laser to a PY of around 180. Even an Albacore would struggle to keep up with that!
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I understood that a sailing dinghy propelled is 6 times faster round the cans.
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