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gordon1277 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 665 |
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I agree about enjoying watching both, but with sailing they seem to only want us to have the sprints. Which for me makes no sense in boats like the 49er or Nacra. Also they want us to have them right inshore with really patchy wind which is not repesentative of the sport or showing it off at its best in my opinion. Sorry rant over |
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iiiiticki ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 16 Location: Derbyshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 206 |
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Now then....if we are rearranging the Olympic classes round a bit. Put the ladies in a boat that suits the average size athletic lady rather than exceptionally tall or beefy (however lovely) ones. The Byte C2 was designed by the late, great Ian Bruce specifically for the job.
You all knew I was going to say that......and by the way Combs Byte Open on September 10/11.
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rich96 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 20 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 596 |
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With Jaques Rogge in charge the Finn will be there forever
Going to faster foiling boats etc will still look slow, boring and confusing for non sailors |
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Bootscooter ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1094 |
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It's funny you should say that Mr Tick.... .... I heard a while ago that one of the serious suggestions (as opposed to the wholesale slaughter in the linked opinion/article/agenda) is to scrap the male and female 470s and replace with a Mixed 470 and a lightweight female single-hander - likely to be the Byte CII. This would sort out the gender/medal issue completely. As for foils, short races etc, it doesn't matter one jot as to which classes are used and how long the races are if we (or WS) continue to put up with god-awful TV coverage. Nothing looks good on a flat, shifty roll-the-dice course, and that's all we were served up from RIO. Had coverage come from the outside courses we'd have seen Finns, 470s and Nacras getting airborne in huge wages, we'd have seen sailors battling not just each other but the elements too with a visual spectacle worthy of a medal in itself. Personally, and I don't expect everyone to agree with me, I think that warp-factor-snot skiffs and foiling machines don't make for a good (visual) race as there's so much focus boatspeed, necessitating separation and the loss of close racing. I reckon they'd look awful in light winds, and even worse when it's blowing old boots with big waves and they're sat on the shore, un-sailable. There's absolutely nothing wrong with what we've got (aside from the change I suggest up there), but if the powers that be want good visuals for the TV audience then they've got to provide it. The sailors (and classes) are keeping their side of the bargain....
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Presuming Ed ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 641 |
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Jacques Rogge hasn't been president of the IOC for 3 years. Changed in 2013 to Thomas Bach, a German lawyer & fencer.
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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Makes you wonder why they threw the Europe out really.........
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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It had a lot to do with the arms race to develop the best Europe rig. British Aerospace developed Shirley's last rig at an eye watering cost. Not exactly in the spirit of the games. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Simply making the rig one design would have helped costs, but narrowed weight differences, for the Europe. Change to the Radial made sense. To save money, they could run Lasers and Radials one after the other and use the same hulls.
If Laser sailors are too small, bung a larger sail on to get the right average. Use it 4 times, Men's heavy and light, women's heavy and light with the 4.7 rig too. Scrap all other dinghy classes and bring in jet ski racing and give up totally on sports which might confuse the armchair viewer. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Looking at the photo of the start of the archipelago raid, maybe a long distance cat race, finishing near the host city, would gain more interest.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Think you'll find the rig was one design at the end, but measured one design, and this became part of the problem. If you want to make an unrestricted mast stiffer you glue some more carbon on the outside. If you want to make a restricted mast stiffer then you throw it away and make a new one, because you're not allowed to make it 1mm thicker. Similarly if you want it to bend more you end up with sandpaper on the end of a 15foot stick removing material on the inside. |
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