Who was out this weekend?.....

So, I'm right then, the spinnaker is badly cut and maybe too small.

Nothing wrong with the hull for planing.

Just doesn't plane fast enough to use high angles.

We're going round in circles here.

I think broadly those that have sailed the boat are in broad agreement.

Whatever, its still a bloody fun boat to sail in a breeze if you're just
getting in to this sitting down lark.

I doubt even the MPS class's finest would have beaten us on Sunday, that
is if they could have even gotten off the beach.

Well Isis you illustrate clearly the point I make, had the design of the
spinnaker been perhaps A) A Tad bigger, and B)A cut more suited to the
planing speed the hull is clearly more efficient at, it certainly isn't a
displacement speed boat.

Then it wouldn't have to be sailed as broad as it does to guarantee the
spinnaker doesn't luff and collapse when running high, and in shifty gusty
conditions.

Our all up crew weight is around 140 kgs which seems to cope fine with
winds up to Bft 6, which certainly seems to be the threshold the boat likes
and becomes competitive with the other stuff around our neck of the
woods.

As for apparent wind, for those reading this and have fogotten their basic
sailing physics, as soon as anything is moving, it relies on the
combination of real and apparent wind. The faster it moves, the more or
"higher" the apparent wind element is.

Apparent wind gets you going and off on the plane, gusty, shifty
(particularly heading wind)can bring the combination of the true and
apparent wind even further ahead of you and luff your spinnaker so you
bear off the faster you go, this is the same in all planing sailing, boats
boards whatever, I may be a novice at boats, but I am no novice when it
comes to sails and sail design.

A spinnaker cut differently, i.e. less full, would work better in conditions
like this. My guess, this is an old boat, 3073, its an old design, 10 years, I
bet nowadays spinnakers are different.

I'm definately with isis here! Stop being a grumpy old git and except that we are right and you are wrong and the only time youd get "strong" apparent is in a proper assymetric such as a cherub, 9er, 49er etc.
Or infact an mps which wait one mo.... u didnt get on with did u?
Nuff said!


Edited by BBSCFaithfull

Tee Hee, christ, i must have sailed the 3000 really badly when i did as i didn't seem to be sailing on strong apparent wind!

I can see how that system could be advantageous, although it wouldn't
help in some of the scenarios that gave us problems on Sunday, running
a bit high then hitting a header that just backs the kite into a flapfest
which threatens to ditch us in to windward.

I doubt you'd be quick enough to wingwang it back the other way, who
would do it?

Does the helm operate it if the crew's stuck out on the wire?

I dont think whoever designed the spinnaker that drives our boat paid
enough attention to the problems of travelling at high apparent winds
frankly.