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Pierre ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1532 |
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From what I've seen of the antics at my club with a 29'er, you'd have about the same learning curve as the 600. Weir Wood windshifts make for an exciting balancing act. Does look to be a hoot though.... if you are young thin and nimble.
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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the 29er is everything the 500 fails to be and more
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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i tried out a 29er and an rs 500 on wednesdsay. the 500 is so much slower than the 29er, it was also alot less fun. we spent so much time trying to get the 9er to stay upright after we capsized it was so funny. as soon as i can get rid of the feva im getting one
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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aww aint it sweet only teasing graeme, sounds great. Edited by mike ellis |
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Thank you WR, apology accepted, but unnecessary, I hadn't taken offence, the "whining children" quip came as a result of an earlier retaliatory strike at surly youths, that again had given me no offence, but I did take offence at the time when your "presumably youthful" moderator had weighed in with PM's telling me to "watch it", because of all the complaints he'd had, presumably from the said youfs. Whatever its over I'll stick to banter and stories until my writing style, which isn't intended to give offence, by being so obviously OTT is more accepted. The reason I'm here is simply because I'm a novice at boat handling, its tricky because I'm not a novice, more an expert, at competitive sailing, just my past life was as a stand up competitor. I can see how that might give the appearance of my being a "ringer" or a wind up, but it simply aint so. I genuinely did take my first steps sitting down on an MPS and in difficult circumstances. This Lsr3000 is a joy compared to that skiff, but, a lot of the stuff I learned transfers across, the MPS has to be sailed downwind with an assymettric spinnaker, so I had to get that bit dialed, the only thing I ever did in it was race, and I could never keep up with the good guys as well as I can in this 3000. However, having said that, last night I spent staring up the transom of Nemo, a bloody mirror dinghy, as i totally screwed the start, and a downwind in next to no wind and an adverse tide. I tried everything, sitting right up front, various downwind angles, it just sucks to the water in drifty conditions. I finished last. It would have been really depressing, were it not after one long an aggravating drift parallel to a mark, making about the same speed against the tide as the mark. (I knew once I got round, the lee bow of the tide would produce enough wind to propel me back along the last reach and then up wind to finish). I eventually rounded, and almost simultaneously, the sun, previously hidden all day behind depressing grey skirts, peeked out between the skirt and the horizon, casting a brilliant orange glow across the bay, and that last reach the spinnaker filled with a slightly fresher breeze, helped by the adverse tide, and my little purple friend jollied forward and none of it mattered. There is no place I'd rather have been, alone at sea with that light in the closing moments of what had been a pretty knaff day. Its what sailings all about, doesn't matter what you sail, a board, a boat or a kite even, times like that... You can't buy them. Edited by Graemef |
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timnoyce ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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haha, please do post again. Little stories like that help me remember it's not just my boat which breaks!
I'll have a weeks worth of sailing stories when I get back from Scotland so I'll update you all then! Bring on the nationals! ![]() |
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Black no sugar ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 04 Location: Somewhere between Brighton and Lancing Online Status: Offline Posts: 3941 |
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Nice one Francis I always feel insignificant and never post in this thread, because I don't have success stories or aquabatics to share. However, I will try, since I am the least-competent sailor on this forum (it might encourage others to post...) On Sunday, F5 when i got to the club, good F6 gusts in a very shifty winds and nice long waves. Contender443 had volunteered to look after the children mostly because he was a little wary and didn't want his nice, new shiny bottom scratched (the RS200...). ... .. .
the postponment flag was on... ... meanwhile, we were all having loads of fun in the wind, very fast reaches surfing the waves, drenched in spray, the fine droplets shimmering in the sun and drying in a rock-solid film of salt on my glasses, rocky runs when you're crouching in the bottom of the boat and steering with your bodyweight, blasting beats when the toestraps dig in your feet and you know your thighs will be singing on Monday...... You can picture the scene. Great! Looking forward to the race! After 45 minutes' delay, the fast fleet got their start, then the Lasers, then the Toppers... I had an eye on the watch, was on the line, got to 15 seconds before the start, put in quick gybe to get through the line on the gun... and the traveller snapped. End of race End of report The afternoon race was cancelled, since the wind was getting quite fierce. Everyone packed up... ... .. .
and the wind died F2 all afternoon. Could have taken the Contender out...
I promise I won't post in this thread again, yes I do! Please don't hit me... Edited by Black no sugar |
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Wave Rider ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 909 |
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Right Graemef, I apologise. Just had a look at my post and realised quite how thick it made me seem. I wasn't trying to insult your boat or your sailing and I realise it sounded like that so sorry! I was being a twat and thinking of apparent wind as the wind which the exceptionally quick skiffs use. I realise everything sails on a small amount of apparent wind. I have sailed a laser 3k many times and agree they are great fun and quick in a blow ... My rubbishly phrased post was meant to mean 'crap, maybe i sailed the 3000 really wrongas we wern't really treating in like an 'apparent wind boat'. So have fun and enjoy it, they're good boats. |
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Think I'd agree, even if its in the same way a new crisp boat will outperform
an old one of any design. But it's only likely to be in the mid range, very light and very windy I doubt if there will be much difference. We have a good battle with a Laser 2, they are competant sailors, but not tactically aware, we're useless boathandlers but out manouvre them shift wise. Boat speed difference, the fact their back door is shut helps them when its light, we're generally awash, even when we remember to put the bung in. |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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i think l3k and l2 would be pretty close, think the v3k would get away though.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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