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    Posted: 04 Dec 14 at 12:51pm
Originally posted by winging it

Finally grumpf succumbs to the virtues and joys of wood bothering.



The world's gone mad.........
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Originally posted by Mark Jardine

While I have no issue with people having different opinions on things, please refrain from getting personal in your posts. It's Christmas time so keep your handbags at bay!
 
Thanks Mark, thats exactly my point.  Difference in opinion is to be celebrated.  People geting personal is frankly...well....not!
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Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by iiitick

GRF found much of this to his own cost when he bravely (arrogantly) tried to build a performance craft with integral hamper.</span>


I wouldn't have said bravely, I don't think it was brave, it might be with the next one as I'm self building it in wood and it could fall apart, the other one didn't break up, it's main failing came down to build weight, it was just too damn heavy to be bothered with, in the end if I'm honest. Stupid maybe, arrogant probably, but nothing ventured...

I do at least know the concept works, so this next one (even though the breadknife remarked negatively when she came across the sketch pad after daughter No 4 nicked it whilst i was out last night and started up with the Christmas Card sketches.) should be the success I'm looking for (given the goal posts have also shifted and I need it to cope down the lake).

I like the idea of your precious and top secret boat plans being mailed out as Christmas cards...there will be hoardes of teenage girls entombed in garages messing with their Gaboon whilst glued to their I phones.
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Am I the only one who's still worried about Laser mast rake and weight?

Seems like the measuring of both at the 2014 worlds would indicate that some officials are concerned about it too.

I don't know if I'm farting in the wind, or that I've been sailing a dud and I'm actually far better than I thought, or worse, that my boat is fast, and that the races I've won is more about slightly better boat speed. I always seem a little off the pace downwind. I always thought my technique needed improving.

This has got me worried.


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Bruce:
If you'r so worried, why don't you measure your rake and weigh your boat?
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Yup, you are the only one who is actually worried - the rest just like a good wind up.
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Originally posted by Bruce



Am I the only one who's still worried about Laser mast rake and weight?
Seems like the<span style="line-height: 1.4;"> measuring of both at the 2014 worlds would indicate that some officials are concerned about it too.</span>
I don't know if I'm farting in the wind, or that I've been sailing a dud and I'm actually far better than I thought, or worse, that my boat is fast, and that the races I've won is more about slightly better boat speed. I always seem a little off the pace downwind. I always thought my technique needed improving.
This has got me worried.




I'm not worried at all, simply intrigued that the 9 times World Champion goes to the trouble and expense of shipping a boat all the way from Ourimba in New South Wales, when he could simply drive a couple of hours down the road to Milan and purchase a new boat from the Italian Laser dealer.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vronny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 14 at 6:24pm
I was on a sailing holiday in Greece two or three years ago. The company had got a batch of a dozen or so new Lasers. One of the top Lasers sailors in Greece measured the mast rake on all of them and chose the best ones to go to the Greek laser squad and the rest were kept by the holiday company. I watched him choose the boats. He had a lower mast section which he put in each mast hole and measured from the top of it to the back of the boat. And I think he measured from the back of the mast to the stern corners too. 
If you have access to several lasers, you could easily do something similar to see if there are noticeable differences in lasers at your club.
There again, if your boat turns out to be different to other people's, would you know if it was different in a good way or a bad way?!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Emilio Castelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 14 at 6:44pm
FFS this news is so old everybody forgot?
I mean, we used to measure rake and weight in the 80s;  if you were halfway serious about sailing lasers you would pick your boat and spars, given a chance.
Ben Ainslie in his Laser book (20 yrs ago?), page 10 talks about measuring your rake, how to do it and the best range. He also says" newer boats vary very little".
Get over it; no two boats (or objects) can be perfectly identical. As far as sailing The Laser is still as close as it gets.
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