Advertising via sail numbers? 55

Originally posted by GarethT Originally posted by Rupert Just issue the out of class boat with an Experimental Number (which can be the same as the normal class PN in a case like this, where the sails are the same size and shape) but state that boats with experimental numbers can't win the main trophies. So, you get a result, but not the 100k prize money... The same would apply to me taking my Minisail along, I guess. It doesn't have a published number, just what I sail off at the club. If I went to an event, I'd far rather they used the number I think is roughly correct, but banned me from winning the huge prize money or bottle of wine, than they gave me a 50 point slashing and made the race a nonsense from my point of view.   If it helps, I used to have a minisail way back when and the sprint version with the sliding seat had an official PY of 126 (old money), and my club adjusted my non-sliding seat variant to 130.

I used to sail a Sprint off 126, back in the day, too. And even further back, the non seat PY was 110, before they multiplied it by 1.2. I'm sailing a non sliding seat boat off 1220 currently, which is about 10 points down from a translation of 130. Knock 50 points off that at a big open meeting and I'd need to be sailing at Streaker speed, which isn't likely...

Originally posted by boatshed I'm half messing with you.

Edited by pondmonkey - 07 Feb 13 at 2:39pm

2 points -

1. the NOR should clearly state what the policy on out-of-class boats will be. This could be a PY penalty, or the creation of a separate Experimental category with separate prize, or some other solution. All competitors should know how this will be dealt with before entering.
Maybe, the big winter events could get together and agree a common policy - perhaps with advice from the RYA.

2 The class rules that apply must be the version that is freely available. For International Classes the ISAF website version should be the one that applies - When there is a rule change the class should hassle ISAF IT to ge the new version posted. For other classes the rules themselves should stipulate where the authoratitive version is to be posted. It would be totally unfair if the class rules that apply were an unpublished version voted in after a heated debate at an AGM after several  ammendments.... with the authoratitve version being a piece of much scribbled upon piece of paper lying in the Hon Secs 'to do' tray

Originally posted by boatshed Originally posted by pondmonkey so you'd not let some one race at a PY race with a rooster sail on a Laser?  I'll answer with a question.   Could one enter the Laser Olympics with a Rooster sail ?

Originally posted by fudheid Errrrr i think not. (nice myth that they are carrying on British built my arse!) Think you will find that these speed sails/banks sails (tape drive copies) are from China Sail Factory. They are easy to spot as The tape drive / 3DL / D4 membranes are PATENTED so all CSF can do is straight lines and not follow the catenary paths of the loads like a true load path sail....... Yes they still make sails in their loft but they also import from China Sail Factory...... There are not that many facilities to make this sort of sail so unless it is a Uk tape drive, north 3dl or a Dimension polyant D4, ullman membrane, you are likely to be looking at a China sail membrane.

Speed used to built tape drive sails in their loft in Aldridge. The technology is available to any sailmaker who cares to buy it. That the tapes don't exactly follow the load paths is immaterial on a dinghy sail.