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    Posted: 22 Oct 09 at 7:18pm
The media for this boat launch is excellent - great videos, great pics and an
excellent website. A new benchmark for boat launches, would be nice to see
some of this wear off onto the rs100 launch.
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Originally posted by SimonW99

Looks great, wish I was there! Is Luca going to have some charter boats
available at some point later on?

No amount of design can get away from the physics, so the D-one in
optimum conditions has to be faster upwind than the RS boat. People
should sail both, make their choice and pay their money. Handicapping
puts all boats on an even basis in theory at club level, so then it just
comes down to which boat you like sailing. As for open one design, then
the boats only sail their own kind, so it is only important that they are
good to sail.

Would love to sail both sails on a full production boat when one becomes
available. I would even charter one for a few weeks so I could sail at my
club in our lively conditions.

Simon,

There will be plenty of opportunities to race at the European events next year and for sure we will have charter boats available - charter fee refunded to anyone placing an order within 14 days of the event.

I agree with your thoughts on handicaps putting everyone on the same basis so my choice is a Finn  1066!!!!  I am too old and fat for a foiling moth   The physics that tell us of the speed of the D-One upwind also say that it is a rocket offwind, just need to get the angles right

I think you got the buzz that the D-One seems to give everyone who sails it; a light boat with a sensible sail area and appropriate righting moment 

More than happy to accommodate further testing of the D-One with both sail options and Luca has agreed to send one of the 10.3 M2 semi battened sails to us after this weekend's event.

I will call you in a few days to discuss possibilities of using a D-One for some club racing at wonderful Lymington. Chance is that there will be at least one other D-One racing there very soon

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Looks great, wish I was there! Is Luca going to have some charter boats
available at some point later on?

No amount of design can get away from the physics, so the D-one in
optimum conditions has to be faster upwind than the RS boat. People
should sail both, make their choice and pay their money. Handicapping
puts all boats on an even basis in theory at club level, so then it just
comes down to which boat you like sailing. As for open one design, then
the boats only sail their own kind, so it is only important that they are
good to sail.

Would love to sail both sails on a full production boat when one becomes
available. I would even charter one for a few weeks so I could sail at my
club in our lively conditions.
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Well!

It's our first D-One International regatta ever   Even better is at Torbole, Lake Garda.  Go to http://www.devoti-one.com/video and click on 'First D-One race / Promo video' for more information.

We will post links and daily information so watch this space!

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Originally posted by SimonW99

Rodney
I did point out that the test boat was a prototype, that my skill levels were
not of the Ainslie variety and that Nick Peters is a better sailor. It was not my
intention to suggest this was a speed test, but it was really interesting to
just compare the boats as someone who is pretty core market and will
hopefully race one or the other over the next year. There are differences
between the boats and as I said I think they both move the game on.

Interesting that the production mast is a little softer and that a Semi-
battened sail is available, which is possibly attractive given where I sail. I
assume the affect on PY will be pretty minimal?

Simon,

The point I was trying to make is that conclusions were drawn which were based on unsound input.  To get the best out of a D-One one needs to spend some time in the straps - my guess is that, after a few weekends out on the water, the average sailor will find 10-20% more performance out of the D-One.  That is not to say that you are not a good sailor!   We will be running a number of coaching days to accompany the regional open meetings and Nationals next year to help owners to get the best out of their D-Ones.

The semi battened sail is not much smaller than the standard sail and is certainly easy to use.  Why not come again and try it?  No speed testing though please as we can accommodate this in an arranged way with a helmsman of our own choice.  We are more than happy to run a speed testing program with RS as I am sure that it will be interesting to all to see the results  .  I am not sure if NP reads this thread  but if he doesn't please tell him to email me on rodney@devoti-one.co.uk to organise this.  It would be best, I guess, in fairness to do this when RS have finalised their sail plan. For the record I think that the RS100 is a nice little boat and will find its place in the market as will the D-One.

Speak soon,

Rodney

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Rodney
I did point out that the test boat was a prototype, that my skill levels were
not of the Ainslie variety and that Nick Peters is a better sailor. It was not my
intention to suggest this was a speed test, but it was really interesting to
just compare the boats as someone who is pretty core market and will
hopefully race one or the other over the next year. There are differences
between the boats and as I said I think they both move the game on.

Interesting that the production mast is a little softer and that a Semi-
battened sail is available, which is possibly attractive given where I sail. I
assume the affect on PY will be pretty minimal?
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Originally posted by Inland sea

Is that a smaller sail she is using in the Video?

Well spotted!

Yes it's a 10.3M2 semi battened rather than the 11.0M2 standard fully battened main.  Works well for lighter sailors and most women.

Interestingly a 78 Kilo sailor has been faster than big Luca (115 Kgs) around the course, in a healthy breeze, with both using the fully battened main.  This has certainly shown that the boat with its weight equalisation works well but I am guessing that some of the lighter sailors or some of those regularly sailing in heavy conditions will choose the semi battened option!

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Is that a smaller sail she is using in the Video?

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It's nice to see how much the professionals like the D-One with Andy Rice of Y&Y, David Henshall of DSM and now Manon Borsi of Voile et Voiliers all very impressed.

http://www.voilesetvoiliers.com/chantier/article/2322/d-one- mieux-qu-un-nouveau-deriveur%E2%80%A6

http://devoti-one.co.uk/devoti-one_suntouched3_007.htm

http://www.devoti-one.com/news/d-one-under-test-yacht-yachti ng-magazine

As I have said before 'don't knock it until you've tried it.

For a test sail just email me at rodney@devoti-one.co.uk

Rodney



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Originally posted by SimonW99

I didn't mean to kill free speech and have been Pm'd about this from this
and the RS100 forum, so I'll post to both and everyone can have their say.

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Thank you Simon for an interesting analysis.  It is great news for us that you found the D-one to be so fast as have so many others.  Probably much faster than you realise!

As I explained before you tested the D-One, you used an early prototype with a development mast and an early and subsequently discarded sail design.  The boat in question is also narrower (hiking position) than even the innermost settings on the production model so considerably less righting moment.  As also explained, there are some systems on this boat that are not working anything like as effectively as on the production boats.  All in all you were able to experience the fun of sailing a D-One but this was not the time for boat for a boat speed testing program as a production boat would give you more control and speed on all points of sailing and all conditions. 

I challenge any sailor, even Ben Ainslie, to get the best out of a boat on first acquaintance so the comparisons drawn in your posting can not reflect reality.

Did you notice on your capsises how easy it is to remount the D-One, not a luxury enjoyed in some other classes! 

We would welcome an organised speed testing program with other asymmetric, hiking single handers as it would help us all with input to our PYs.

Rodney



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