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    Posted: 24 Dec 20 at 9:05pm
Originally posted by 423zero

Paper and pencil not going to crash, flags not going to be 'someone forgot to put them on charge', far less to go wrong. Mobile signal crap at my club, WiFi long way from water.

True but, TBF, you don't need wifi or mobile signal to use RaceQs or Strava...
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Paper and pencil not going to crash, flags not going to be 'someone forgot to put them on charge', far less to go wrong. Mobile signal crap at my club, WiFi long way from water.
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Originally posted by tink



Originally posted by Grumpycat


Originally posted by Rupert

Little puddleducks SC would run on RO, ARO, 2 in a PB and 1 or 2 in the galley. Would that change?

You knew the answer before you asked the question.
We all know the answer , it’s no . For big events I am sure it is a help but for the average puddle club it’s no help at all, either in making it easier to run the race or the ability to need less people .

With the right technology which appears to exist the answer is yes. A nominated PRO can set the course and then actually sail the race, no ARO required. Safety crew can monitor the start line. 
There appears also to be other real positives in that you can post race understand where you could have done better by looking at the plots. I can’t be the only person who would love to understand why that boat 50ft behind at the leeward mark was 50ft ahead at the windward.



I really didn't know the answer, just my luddite preconceptions! If it's possible to set it up as described then tech savvy youngsters may well prefer methods like this - I can see it working well in a less formal setting, which is where club racing should be heading. From a personal point of view, a pencil and paper is the pinnacle of human communication, but I may have been left behind.
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I have blasted past a boat in the doldrums, both going in the same direction, wind has oscillated over becalmed boat and touched surface to power me on, unless I am mistaken?
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Originally posted by tink

There appears also to be other real positives in that you can post race understand where you could have done better by looking at the plots. I can’t be the only person who would love to understand why that boat 50ft behind at the leeward mark was 50ft ahead at the windward.

That's why I bought my Garmin Viviactive 3 watch, RaceQs is pretty 'difficult' (it's still in Beta on the watch but the web app is not at all intuitive and has bugs which doesn't seem to save the wind direction when corrected from the auto detected direction after the race. But It's great to replay your race afterwards, especially if your buddy has RQs on his boat too.
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Originally posted by Grumpycat

Originally posted by Rupert

Little puddleducks SC would run on RO, ARO, 2 in a PB and 1 or 2 in the galley. Would that change?

You knew the answer before you asked the question.

We all know the answer , it’s no . For big events I am sure it is a help but for the average puddle club it’s no help at all, either in making it easier to run the race or the ability to need less people .

With the right technology which appears to exist the answer is yes. A nominated PRO can set the course and then actually sail the race, no ARO required. Safety crew can monitor the start line. 

There appears also to be other real positives in that you can post race understand where you could have done better by looking at the plots. I can’t be the only person who would love to understand why that boat 50ft behind at the leeward mark was 50ft ahead at the windward.


Edited by tink - 24 Dec 20 at 4:35pm
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Originally posted by Rupert

Little puddleducks SC would run on RO, ARO, 2 in a PB and 1 or 2 in the galley. Would that change?

You knew the answer before you asked the question.

We all know the answer , it’s no . For big events I am sure it is a help but for the average puddle club it’s no help at all, either in making it easier to run the race or the ability to need less people .
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the level of accuracy a phone can give is more than addequate for club racing, high profile events is another matter, and if your club racing warrants the higher accuracy simon and others systems are there.

gps battery life is a killer for phones, i have used an old ipad 2 and a bluetooth gps unit to do day racing offshore before, this could be an alternative buit havent tested it myself with a phone.

standalone gps units are great if you dont want the "live" features that phones give.

beyond the various limitations all these systems have the biggest is getting mass take up, it has to be simple for the huamn processing the end data and even simpler for the inital users.
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Little puddleducks SC would run on RO, ARO, 2 in a PB and 1 or 2 in the galley. Would that change?
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Originally posted by ClubRacer

It wont be less duties though, you still need exactly the same number of people to run the racing to begin with. 

The experience from big events is using technology we need less people to actually deliver the event.
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